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[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nationalism actually: The people and products and culture from this country are better than those from another country because they are from this country.

[–] halvar@lemm.ee -2 points 5 months ago

That's actually Chauvinism.

[–] punkisundead@slrpnk.net 11 points 5 months ago

Interesting how many different (not so charitable) interpretation of this comic exist in thr comments.

To me this of course a simplification, as its a comic and was postes in !memes

In my opinion this comic shows how nationalism can be used to pit the working class against each other even tho their class interests are pretty similar, no matter which side of the border they are.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

That's not Nationalism.

Ah, yep. The artist is from the US.

So in the real world, nationalism, and specifically economic nationalism, obviously tends to oppose this sort of behaviour.

I can only assume the artist is upset with market fundamentalism in their country, and while it's ironically accumulated through globalisation which is another thing nationalism has varied opposition to, tried to bring nationalism into it because "country border".

Edit: Oh, and while I'm in no way an advocate of nationalism—actually big on sharing culture, wealth, and knowledge as a whole—a lot of really bad misinformation of various schools of thought seems to be pushed around here. Getting fatigued by Americans grabbing a random ism word and throwing it around so out of context, it's usually ironically opposed to what they think it is.

Edit 2: Go to bed, +13 / -1. Wake up after Americans have been online, +14 / -10. I rest my case.

[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No, actually nationalism in Europe is like "let's hate our neighbors instead of the bourgeois in our country. They speak a silly language". That's what mobilized soldiers into the first world war.

Source: I'm German and I hate French people much more than my boss (/s to the last part if not obvious)

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world -5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I think that's just good ol' fashioned xenophobia. But yeah, has often been a trait of ultra nationalism in Europe's very complex history. Maybe the comic should be retitled; A beginner's guide to "nationalism".

I say often here, pick whatever political/economical/societal ism you like, there'll always been an entity exploiting it in the background. This is why we have so many, none of them seem to ever work, and everyone has such varying views and experiences of them, why they do/don't work. Our species can't have nice things.

[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You don't see a connection between nationalism and xenophobia? This is beyond me

[–] magic_lobster_party@kbin.run 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Country borders aren’t a product of nationalism either. They’re created in agreement with other governments (usually after a dispute). It marks the territorial reach of a government.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago

That's actually a way more succinct point than all the shit I just babbled 👍