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[–] notamichael@beehaw.org 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why is everything to do with this story completely unsurprising.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because we've all come to accept that Elon Musk doesn't know how to run a social media site?

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

He knows how to run a social media site into the ground...

Which is probably the whole point. Make it seem like the site is failing because of mismanagement, and not that its failure was intended right from the start with a leveraged buyout saddling the business with an untenable $13bn of debt.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 6 points 1 year ago

No, he's just dumb!

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[–] Melpomene@kbin.social 52 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The best anyone can do right now is to migrate off of Twitter entirely. As long as Musk is in charge (or in charge through his puppet CEOs) the site will be a cesspool of toxicity and hate. I'm honestly not sure why reputable people are still using the site... guess the view and media exposure are better than doing the right thing and leaving?

[–] Traumkaempfer@fedia.io 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anyone who is still on Twitter has, in my opinion, fewer issues with being a corporate puppet and being associated with all the hatred there than they have with losing views.

[–] Skyler@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have (had?) plenty of friends on Twitter who loudly proudly boycotted the Harry Potter game due to JKR's comments about trans people.

But they’ve stayed on Twitter despite its horrible owner and how he runs things.

I’m willing to give a pass to creators who make a living off their online audience. If the audience went off Twitter, so would they.

Everyone else, though? I don’t ever care to hear about what they're boycotting again if they can’t pull themselves off Twitter.

[–] TwilightVulpine@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I don't agree with that logic because that means whenever horrible people buy off a platform, even if you do not pay for it, you are obligated to leave rather than push back. There are people who spent decades cultivating their community before Elon Musk had any interest in it. There are people who are right now pushing back against the rise of hate in it. It seems like a Catch-22 where the person either gives up their platform or they are discredited. The end result either way is that Musk's crowd wins.

[–] Skyler@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

rather than push back.

Elon Musk owns Twitter. Every single time a person tweets some kind of "push back," it's just more activity on the platform that Elon Musk owns.

Question for you: Would you say all the pushback has been working? Because it seems like every comment out of Elon Musk's mouth is worse.

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[–] curiosityLynx@kbin.social 49 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Musk is a proponent of near-absolute free speech

Anything goes, so long as it doesn't hurt his feelings personally

[–] Sentinian@lemmy.one 22 points 1 year ago

As long as you don't use the term cisgender :)

[–] Skyler@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

People are also not allowed to say the word "cisgender” over there

[–] FloatingAlong@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Woah dude, cool it with the c-bombs.

[–] FedericoSchonborn@beehaw.org 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's okay, I gave them a c-word pass.

[–] I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago

Some of my friends are c-words, so I can use it

[–] GunnarRunnar@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Kinda far from absolute imo.

[–] curiosityLynx@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I would claim actual free speech absolutists don't exist.

[–] GunnarRunnar@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're probably since those that preach about free speech are politically driven, hence biased to protect their stance. Rest of us have realized speech isn't free of consequence and the last third just doesn't give a fuck.

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[–] taanegl@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

Freedom, by Musk... a cologne that's actually mace with directions to the local old folks home and instructions on how to use InShot.

[–] pizza_rolls@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Or when an authoritarian government asks him to block literally anything

[–] glennglog22@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

"TikTok copycat"

You know, way way back in the pre-Elon days, they had another one. I think it was called Vine?

[–] GunnarRunnar@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I still don't understand why they killed it. Must've been a real money sink.

[–] zakomo@beehaw.org 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

high costs server side, poor quality of the videos, poor-ish internet connections, not enough powerful cell phones, etc. They were ahead of time. They achieved a decent success in the US but not much outside of it because of much of the reasons listed above.

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[–] caffeine@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fediverse is looking like the objective best alternative, more so day by day.

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[–] NotAPenguin@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (6 children)

All social media is filled with animal cruelty.
There's so many pictures and videos of cut up animal corpses with people going "yum" in the comments..

[–] marx2k@beehaw.org 19 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I don't get how I never see that on regular Twitter.

[–] NotAPenguin@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You've never seen any posts containing meat?

[–] marx2k@beehaw.org 24 points 1 year ago (21 children)

You know, I really wish you were clearer in your OP so I wasn't dragged in to a vegans discussion

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[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (19 children)

It's a too bad that you weren't more clear than your first post, people almost took you serious

[–] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

The "people going “yum” in the comments" made it so extremely obvious its about OP not wanting to see pieces of cooked meat in beef ramen videos

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[–] TheRtRevKaiser@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Folks, there is important, valid discussion to be had about meat eating both from ethical an environmental perspectives. I'm not sure that !Technology is the place to have that discussion, however.

More importantly, this thread was not the way to discuss these issues, particularly on Beehaw. The behavior in this thread was not nice, and is not the way that these types (or any type) of discussion should be conducted.

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[–] 0xSim@fedia.io 8 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Yes there's no difference between a picture of a steak and fries on a plate, and a kitten being tortured then burned alive. Absolutely the same thing.

[–] Moira_Mayhem@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Not to vegans, they're clinically insane.

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[–] realcaseyrollins@kbin.projectsegfau.lt 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)
[–] Snapz@beehaw.org 21 points 1 year ago

Try not to link if you can, just screenshot or copy text. Don't need to drive any traffic to that pit of despair.

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[–] richneptune@lemmy.fmhy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't use Tiktok but I gather that this is a big problem over there as well, so it sounds like Twitter is working just as well as the site it's riffing off.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't either but my understanding from other feedback, and from the article linked, is that no, it's not a problem there. More accurate algorithm and proper moderation.

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[–] FedericoSchonborn@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Many reported being alarmed by a stream of graphic videos they encountered while scrolling through the feed, including videos showing gun violence, police brutality, physical altercations and vaccine misinformation.

So it's working as intended?

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