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Republicans are pulling out all the stops to reverse EV adoption (www.theverge.com)

submitted 4 months ago by jeffw@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] Wahots@pawb.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Inb4 "both parties are the same".

While I hate stuff like these rollbacks, we are already starting to see EVs save people money on gas and service, and they are stupidly fast compared to ICE counterparts. That's something Americans of all stripes can get behind.

Once I tried an ebike, I realized I never wanted to go back to gas engines. So fast, so much torque, and pennies to charge vs $70 gas tanks at Costco (even more at a normal gas station). It just makes economic sense to run PEVs in all major urban areas in addition to mass transit.

With traffic and some protected bike lanes, even a conventional bike can almost beat a car in a 7-14 mile drive in my city. An ebike makes it even easier.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I have arrived! Both parties are the same! No affordable EV's for you! Keep slurrrrping that petrol!

Hike tariffs on Chinese EVs, Senate Democrats urge Biden administration

"Artificially low-priced Chinese EVs flooding the U.S. would cost thousands of American jobs and endanger the survival of the U.S. automotive industry as a whole."

[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Are we in a "free market" or we not? The answer is "depends on what lobbyists want."

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

Are we in a “free market” or we not?

Not.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

What’s the plan if we run out of oil? I mean seriously, it’s gonna happen eventually. Even if you want to ignore the science on climate change, you can’t ignore basic laws of the universe that oil is a finite resource. If we don’t have a plan for when it runs out, there will be utter chaos.

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago

Have they tried helping Lower Gas Prices or are they just trying to make owning EVs Illegal like TRUE Small Government, Free Market Leaders would?

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Jesus, what a stupid fucking hill to die on. Republicans never cease to amaze and appall.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I don't get it. I understand wanting to reduce or eliminate subsidies (they're just a cash handout to dealers and manufacturers imo), but there's no logical reason to be against EVs.

Here's my proposal: allow tax credits for private sales. Perhaps add some requirements to certify that the seller owned the car more than a year or something to qualify to prevent flipping.

[–] theyoyomaster@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

There is a logical reason to be against forced adoption before the technology matures. For a lot of the country they are not a viable replacement for ICE yet. They’re improving, but not as fast as ICEs are being phased out and that leaves a lot of places where a dwindling used market will be the only option for many people.

[–] Anise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hybrids: am I a joke to you?

[–] theyoyomaster@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

They’re a joke to all the manufacturers that went all in on EVs before the market fell out from under them.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What are you talking about? Pretty much the only thing I see on the used market are ICE vehicles. Do you live somewhere where they're legitimately hard to find?

[–] theyoyomaster@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

Prices for even 200k mile used vehicles are skyrocketing and cheap new cars simply don’t exist. Yes, ICE is the majority of vehicles out there, especially in rural areas, but they are more expensive and less available than ever. 10 years ago I bought a 100k mile Volvo wagon for $10k, put 50k more miles on it then sold it for $5k; if I wanted to buy the exact same car back today with 250k miles i would need to pay $15k for it. As manufacturers shift to EVs that problem is only going to get worse.