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[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I remember during covid I thought one silver lining type thing would be many many more people having to experience the shitty way the Australian government treats unemployed people who need help. Of course they got around this by temporarily changing it, which to me was a stark admission that it was totally inadequate in the first place.

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not only did they temporarily change the payment but they also made it super easy to access, to the extent that many people who were effectively out of work just continued to be paid by their employer automatically as if nothing had happened. Even the genuinely unemployed people who didn't have a job to go back to never had to deal with Centrelink, job providers or mutual obligations in a normal way. Everything was streamlined and very little was expected of people. No one learned anything from that experience.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago

Yes exactly it's extremely frustrating. Everyone just forgot because it was ok for them when they needed help. If the system was actually working properly it wouldn't require any changes for an event like covid.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Because we make national sport out of kicking the shit out of people doing it rough. You will serve or you will die, citizen

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Because everyone on the sole is lazy. Except when we need assistance in which case we're just a battler needing help, but everyone else is lazy.

[–] tombruzzo@aussie.zone 12 points 5 months ago

Love this line:

"For some reason, it released the report on the Friday between Anzac Day and the weekend, so it didn’t get much media coverage."

Can't be seen helping poor people. Can't admit you're not helping them either.

[–] eatthecake@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I was long term unemployed and the ptsd from what i had to do to survive has made me a wonderful employee. I live in terror of losing my job.

[–] PDFuego@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I was absolutely miserable at my previous job but I couldn't go back to being unemployed so I put up with it (while job hunting, which is just as bloody miserable) until I had a total breakdown one day. Now I'm in a much better position and enjoy what I do, but I still have a mortgage on an apartment looming over the rest of my life and losing my job for any reason would make my 10th story balcony look very tempting. It shouldn't feel this way.

[–] eatthecake@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'd vote for a ubi in a heartbeat, and lower home prices. I dont think i'll ever have a mortgage and i don't get how people do it without job security. I'd be even more terrified. Good luck friend.

[–] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’d vote for a ubi in a heartbeat

With you there.

and lower home prices.

The issue is just not that simple to fix.

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

There are a lot of things which can be done to start fixing it, but we won't even do those. Get rid of the capital gains discount and make investment losses only able to be counted against profit from that investment (not other income).

Then you can start looking at supply and liquidity issues.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


"Such demonstrably false premises lead inevitably to poor public policy, with services that are often harmful, unfair, complex, costly to administer, counterproductive and bound to fail.


The original article contains 26 words, the summary contains 26 words. Saved 0%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[–] Baku@aussie.zone 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Hey @rikudou@lemmings.world, the bot seems to be having some difficulties with correctly parsing articles from the ABC. It's been doing it on a fair few posts (see below examples as well). As far as I can tell, it's only occuring on articles from the ABC and I'm not entirely sure what's causing it.

Other examples:

https://lemmings.world/comment/8105800

https://lemmings.world/comment/8196693

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for the report! It's fixed now.

[–] Baku@aussie.zone 1 points 4 months ago
[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It looks like ABC must have changed the internal layout of their pages for whatever reason. It seems like the bot is just selecting the first block quote as the entire article.

On The Register for example it selects the div with the id #body. For ABC it seems that it looks for the class Article_Body which I can't find on that article. I might have a closer look later if I've got some time and try to get a PR in if it doesn't get fixed.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's the case, they removed one level of nesting from the html. Anyway, it doesn't look for Article_Body class, but any class that starts with Article_Body. They're using randomized class names with the prefix being constant, that's why I have to do it that way. I've updated it to this horrible looking selector: div[class*="Article_body"] > div > p, div[class*="Article_body"] > div > ul:not([class*="ShareUtility"]) > li.

[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 2 points 4 months ago

Thanks! I thought it might've been a wildcard thing but wasn't sure. They really don't want their articles summarised do they (or they're probably trying to discourage AI scrapers)