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I know it may be a lot of users' first time using something that is decentralized like this. As I've been a Fediverse user for some time, I had been waiting for a big migration like this to happen as it usually happens with Twitter every now and again. Welcome to Fedi, hope you enjoy your stay!

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[–] Sulecen@lemmy.fmhy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personally I've totally stopped using Reddit. Now that the scroll bug is fixed on the instance I have my account on, there's no reason NOT to use this instead. Also it's nice to see that when you make a thread, that thread matters since it's not going to get lost in the mess of posts due to all the bots and karma farming. It feels more like your actually contributing to a community here.

[–] rmspc@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

The tight-knittedness (new word, yay) of many Fediverse applications is part of the reason that is a thing, and the decentralization a.k.a. private ownership by individuals rather than companies of instances means moderation is more meaningful and less robotic. The only bots you should ever see on the Fediverse are purpose-made ones. Examples are the gutenberg bot and various anime photo bots on the other Fediverse sites that are bots made just to post things, no farming incentive.

[–] lunarshot@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personally, I love it. I was disgusted by Reddit’s actions after 12 years of using the site daily and made a full hop over to the Fediverse.

I have deeper and more meaningful interactions with people and content. It’s been enjoyable for sure to see a quickly evolving and changing place.

I see a lot of people lamenting how the shutdowns didn’t kill reddit and how the Fediverse won’t ever take over reddit? And I couldn’t care less, in fact I think it’s probably a good thing. I like this more niche engagement and look forward to participating as it continues to grow.

[–] rmspc@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I can most agree with the deeper and more meaningful interactions. Fediverse feels more interpersonal with others for sure, I've had huge threads in public Fedi networks where we get 20 people on a thread, just having some friendly conversation that you otherwise would not see on Reddit or Twitter.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm finding the interface a little confusing and the app on Android a little clunky but I'm spending more time on Lemmy than on Reddit. I expect to be here almost full time after the first of July. I've started a few communities of interest to me and am posting as often as I can. I am commenting on other people's posts and generally trying to contribute. I hope this really takes off.

[–] Generator 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

There are some apps for Android, mostly in alpha/beta https://lemmy.world/post/465785

Liftoff looks nice

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks!

I've got Jerboa installed and am using it most of the time. I just installed Connect. It's very basic but I'm giving it a chance.

[–] can@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago
[–] tsuune@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm enjoying the community here and in other instances I've explored. On Reddit, I never really got that urge to contribute and was just content to lurk. Here though... it's a different feeling and I managed to make this post. Don't know how much I'll actively participate, but perhaps I'll open up as I spend more time here.

[–] rmspc@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Fediverse is home to more open-minded individuals, so that sounds about right. All of us here just like chit-chatting about whatever we nerd over. ;)

[–] Refefer@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

You know, I'm not entirely sure that holds. There was always a great sense of open-mindednes on Reddit; the big problem was populist binary opinions emerging as user density increased.

While a community is small, individuality can find a greater platform for expression. I have yet to see a larger community able to preserve those ideals, especially in the presence of reductive social proof voting up/down. The real test for Lemmy isn't today but a few years from now when communities have a greater saturation of users and whether thought diversity will survive a nascent hive mind which these platforms always seem to evolve into.

[–] nfld0001@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's shattered my drive to find One Platform for all of my needs, and I think that's going to work out to be a net positive. I used to be against having to hunt and peck through multiple sites and juggle multiple accounts, but the less time I'm spending on Reddit, the less I'm bothered with the idea of doing that. I can picture some of the old-guard Forum Folk looking down on my reliance on one community rather than spreading out across multiple sites—ah well, better late than never 😅.

Losing out on previous Reddit content has felt a bit like a Library of Alexandria kind of thing for me, however. I'm sure that Lemmy and the wider fediverse will ultimately help to fill that kind of knowledge, and Reddit was by no means some Bastion of Knowledge, but I can't help but think about what prior content, both large and small, meaningful and trivial, is going to be inaccessible because of this whole intrigue.

I still have a lot of work to do in archiving my content and saves from Reddit, but I don't see myself going back to substantially engage if I can help it. The culture around here in Beehaw, if anything, has felt much more worthwhile to engage in than I ever felt anywhere else online.

[–] PorkTaco@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Losing out on previous Reddit content has felt a bit like a Library of Alexandria kind of thing for me

Good way of putting it. That'll be the biggest loss for me personally. So so so many issues or problems or troubleshooting I've found the answer in past Reddit threads.

[–] Calvinball@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I absolutely love it here. It's everything an old anarcho hippy punk could ask for. No regrets on leaving reddit

[–] rmspc@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Judging by this you'd love the Fediverse Twitter alternatives, of which I use much more than Lemmy (Feddit). Here's a list of instances, works similarly to this, except it's Fediverse Twitter rather than Reddit.

[–] Calvinball@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I spend most of my time on beehaw, they're my kind of people

[–] Froggy@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well it's been all but an hour and it's .... weird. I'm still trying to find communities and I'm not sure how to do it methodically.

[–] sure@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are some websites that can help you:

https://lemmyverse.net/

https://browse.toast.ooo/communities

Take a look at this post too: https://mander.xyz/post/859785

[–] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Frankly wonderful. It needs scale, though not as much as people think. If the people that have moved stay involved we probably have scale for a lot of things now.

In terms of Beehaw, like it very much. Like the relative lack of Trolls too, and lack of ads, and presumably lack of behind the scenes content selection that other platform presumably does. The issue outstanding of course is the defederation with a few major instances which needs to be resolved somehow over time. For now fine. I to worry about how the Behaw team supports the site at scale be it man power or money. So I hope everyone considers that and does what they can.

I frankly come from the Mailing List, Usenet, and Compuserve days and frankly Lemmy meets the grade except maybe in some more technical areas like Law, Medicine, and Taxes. The FIRE community is small or non-existant, but this is really just Financial so we do have a community. Yes I came from Reddit, but I have used many Forum platforms before and sometimes still do. Lemmy and Behaw seems great.

Where Lemmy is a little short is a few bugs. The web UI is best, but it too has some bugs. Jarboa was not even complete when this torrent started but now it looks fairly complete but the latest update crashes a lot and still has some annoying bugs like setting the default view which use to work fine. I trust all of these will vanish with time so they do not hinder my resolve to stay here as long as we have enough scale. Sorry I cannot help with these other then put in bug reports if they persist. I do program and know Linux well, but the tech you guys use is not what I know which means it would take me 6 months or a year to do anything useful.

Anyway. All the best to everyone. Very appreciative. For what it is worth, I did drop a little in the tip jar to help with the presumably larger costs, and otherwise try not to bother the admins. They have kind of an impossible and under appreciated job.

[–] can@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago
[–] TimTheEnchanter@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s been positive overall! There have been some minor hassles here and there, but nothing I wouldn’t expect from a small team/site suddenly getting a lot more traffic than usual. Understanding the whole concept of federation was a bit much at first, but I understand it better now, or at least well enough for my own purposes!

[–] rmspc@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Completely understand the concept being a bit to grasp, but it should be noticeable to really anyone that it makes for a fairer internet forum than most. Also, I'm a huge fan of FOSS (free open-source software), so the Fediverse has always been a must have for me.

[–] DaveedMee@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i enjoy the lack of ads and the community, if smaller, seems more welcoming in the subre.... instances? I've visited so far. but everything seems a bit laggy and it's cumbersome to get into. but so far definitely worth the hassle!

[–] TheTrueLinuxDev@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Definitely, one of the thing I noticed is that I brought up a rather contentious topic in open source related to the licensing and people engage in it very thoughtfully and diplomatically. If you tried the same thing on Reddit, it often become a toxic squabbles almost every time.

[–] rmspc@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

As another commenter mentioned, you'll notice more meaningful conversation can be gained on the Fediverse than on other social media platforms. Everyone here is usually willing to spend some time talking to ya if it catches their attention. Also, not many people delve into politics where it isn't relevant. Just something I've noticed. People like staying on topic more and it's great.

[–] haxe11@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like it and think it has a lot of potential, but at least with Lemmy I've encountered a lot of bugs. I want to also try Mastodon and have yet to delve into it.

[–] rmspc@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I do highly recommend Mastodon! It is a great Twitter alternative, and is way more laid back at least in my experience. I use it as my frontend to the Fediverse on my phone as it is easier that way, but I prefer Pleroma and Soapbox otherwise. Still need a Lemmy frontend on my phone but, eh, not a phone user that much anyways.

[–] obi_one@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Like it but I still feel a little lost after a few days. I miss the depth of content of what I was used to read. Once I know my way around it, it should be better.

[–] rmspc@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Would be willing to answer any questions about the Fediverse that people viewing this post may have, by the way. Don't be shy :)

[–] Duxon@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Ok, dumb question: Can I use my Lemmy account to access Mastodon? If everything is interconnected on the Fediverse, I don't understand why I couldn't. If I can't, I don't understand how everything on the Fediverse is interconnected.

[–] Duxon@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Another question: I think one of the pillars of Reddit is its searchability via Google Search. It makes it very worthwhile to invest writing high quality content on Reddit's communities if you know that it has wider implications.

What's the state on discoverability through search engines for Lemmy? I suppose a major problem here is that all content of a federated server is at risk of getting lost forever if the owner winds it down.

[–] Driftking@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I feel like the lack of nsfw content and the somewhat prudish attitude towards it is hurting the potential of lemmy. It was a huge part of reddit even if some dont want to admit that

[–] PelicanPersuader@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's an entire instance dedicated to NSFW content. If you check the Show NSFW box in your profile settings and browse the All feed, you'll see it popping up.

[–] Driftking@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Ok, I had activated that and joined the instance but nothing was showing up. Must be another jerboa problem :/

[–] rmspc@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Well, that's where the decentralization comes in. There's NSFW instances out there, just gotta find em.

[–] Mika7150@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

damn really? I blocked like a billion instances already to stop seeing porn before I decided to turn off NSFW altogether (on Reddit sometimes good not porn content was marked NSFW also, so turning it off was not ideal)

[–] OtakuAltair@vlemmy.net 1 points 1 year ago

Lack? In nsfw? Clearly not a lemmynsfw.com enjoyer😔

[–] Mika7150@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

I'd been on mastodon since 2018 I love the fediverse a lot. I love that I don't feel pressure to be a certain way or post a certain way (like putting a typo in my meme on purpose to increase engagement 🤮💀)

I love that a community is enough. we don't need infinite upwards growth like a bunch of lunatics

I love that there's so many instances. I love opening up my browser again.

[–] elopachko@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

It's a trip, and I wanna go everywhere lol

[–] alanine96@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like it a lot, but I'm worried I'll fall back into endless scrolling that I enjoyed breaking away from after leaving reddit.

[–] TimTheEnchanter@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I think having a smaller community helps with this, at least for me. There’s fewer users, so new content and comments get posted less frequently, so less urge to scroll and find new stuff.

[–] Dankenstein@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

This is my first time in the Fediverse but I'm not a stranger to things like P2P, Tor, Usenet, I2P, Freenet, etc.

I really like it, feels more substantial and meaningful.

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