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What's the problem with torrent?
Honestly nothing at all, I just prefer the speeds and reliability of Usenet (though I pay for that).
Private trackers have great speed and reliability as well. I've been using sonarr and radarr for years but have never bothered with Usenet due to the added cost. They all work great with torrents even though they were originally designed for Usenet.
Torrents. I don't really find Usenet worth the money. I can get most of the stuff I want on public sites. Some others I can get on private trackers. Never really felt the need to use Usenet. And as others have pointed out, the arr apps work great with torrents.
And honestly, I find it a little scummy to pay for content to people who don't own them. I don't think piracy in itself is unethical, but I if you take money for stolen content, that's not cool in my book.
Honestly had no idea usenet was still a thing. I’m old. Old enough to know usenet and have used it back in the day. But young enough to switch torrenting and not ever really learn another way
Now I have to look up some info!
Usenet costs money, that's why I don't use it.
same. I already pay for VPN. I can't be bothered to figure out how usenet has changed in the almost 20 years since I last was on it.
I use torrents almost exclusively because of the price (free) and convenience. That is, I can get them easily where I live for no additional cost beyond my low speed internet. I have no extra money at all, at this time in my life, unfortunately.
Probably a dumb noob question, but shouldn't one use a VPN for privacy when torrenting? Wouldn't that add additional cost?
Live in a third world country and all software is free software. No strings attached
my brother 👏 our authorities are too busy using pirated software to crack down on it. can't imagine some people live in countries where anyone gives half a shit about piracy.
Some countries just don't care (even if they have laws on piracy), no vpn needed.
I enjoy torrents, searching and deciding which is the best quality + storage combo is right for me is the fun part
Are most piracy users aware of programs like sonarr or radarr?
Sounds like you yourself aren't aware of their capabilities, if you're presenting a false dichotomy of torrents or *arrs
I'm not. What are sonarr and radarr and why do you recommend them?
Sonarr and radarr manage downloads for TV and movies in a nice way for Usenet and actually torrents as well. You can set up quality profiles and choose which shows and movies you want to download and they will grab torrents/nzbs that meet your preferences, automatically start them in your torrent app or Usenet downloader, and then organize them in folders with appropriate metadata for Kodi/Plex when the downloads complete. They automate the process very nicely.
Edit, I'm a Usenet guy if that wasn't already clear lol
How is Usenet for privacy compared to torrents, e.g. if a usenet service you are paying for is compromised at some stage are they likely to be able to identify you based on payment data for example?
They search indexers and send to downloaders. You can set up a whole *arr suite to automate everything.
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I use the Starr apps with torrents. I kinda just forget all about it since it all just works.
Torrents. Because it's free and fast (if what I'm pirating is famous enough). I started using sites like 1337x, nyaa,rabg🪦 etc.. with qbittorent a few years ago and never had any reason to change.
Torrents for everything, i've found it to be one of the safest ways as well, thanks to all of the other ship mates who seed with me.
Torrents work great for my needs and I prefer them. Haven't really messed with usenet much.
Are most piracy users aware of programs like sonarr or radarr?
Of course we are, hell that's what I use with my torrents. They aren't just for usenet lol
Torrents are free. I use both, but it's always a choice whether or not to renew Usenet.
I use torrents and usenet. I have sonarr and radarr configured to fetch from both.
I like using both because they each have different strengths. Usenet tends to be faster, but torrents tend to have longer retention and a wider variety of content.
I've yet to try Usenet. I use Qbitorrent. I've heard of sonarr and radarr, but I haven't used them.
Torrents+Real Debrid and IPTV have taken care of all my media streaming needs.
I do have Sonarr/Radarr setup, but streaming via debrid works so well I haven't needed to use them much.
I still use torrents sometimes but almost exclusively use Usenet these days. For Plex/jellyfin servers it’s pretty unbeatable.
Torrents are mostly stuff like audiobooks from audiobookbay and myanonymouse and games from repackers like Fitgirl.
I mean usenet costs money and torrents don’t.
Sonarr and radarr can use torrents just as much as they can use usenet. I used them for both, now I dropped usenet altogether.
I find it easier to either DDL or torrent, plus a lot of the stuff I'm after recently proved hard tto find on usenet for whatever reason.
It's more hassle to search usenet for my usecase and while it's true that maxing out download speeds is awesome, I'm not in a hurry. I let the .arr apps do the work while I'm busy with life and when I get back home I have it all ready anyways.
Torrenting with a seedbox for me. I'm aware of Sonarr/Radarr and other automation tools but I don't feel like I have the need for them. Some part of me enjoys the manual search and management. Never touched Usenet though it's in the mental "maybe try later" bin.
I'd recommend giving Sonarr and Radarr a try at least. Setup is pretty straight forward but it goes way in depth if you want to work out the little intricacies of managing your media.
Setting them up via docker is highly recommended.
I just switched to Usenet after using torrents for the past couple of years. The difference is night and day
Usenet. Been using it consistently for over 10 years now. I only torrent when I can't find something on usenet. So not too often. Plus Usenet just maxes out my download speed on everything. It's so freaking fast compared to torrents. I gladly pay for that.
I have no knowledge of usenet. How do I get started?
A quick run down: Get yourself a Usenet client (akin to qbittorent for example). SABnzbd is the most popular, free, and open source.
Next you will need an Indexer (similar to a torrent site like The Pirate Bay). There are a lot of these and you will usually need to pay (most are like 10-20 per year, some are free, but it may be hard to find content on the only free sites) to access an indexer. A good paid one I used was NZBgeek. Another is NZB Finder which has free accounts (with some restrictions).
Last thing you need is a Usenet Provider (these are the companies that actually host the files you download). You will need to pay for this for sure and most people actually pay for 2-3 Usenet providers (most only host things for a certain time and content can get taken down due to DMCA). There are a ton of options to choose from and you can mix and match is so many diffrent ways, but Frugal Usenet is pretty popular (if you pay for yearly, they give you an account for another Usenet provider that you can use as a partial backup). I always paired it with UseNight (just has speed restrictions depending on time, but its a great backup) which is very cheap per year. I don't want to get to technical, but I will mention it incase people want to take the Usenet dive. When buying multiple providers, do NOT buy them if they are from the same backbone! You can refer to this chart to help figure out the main ones. Content that gets taken down via DMCA is pretty much removed at the backbone level and will affect every provider under it (I know the free account from Frugal is the same backbone, but that's just for backup in case of outages).
Been using Usenet for 28 years, I use torrents if I can't find it on Usenet
I've never used Usenet... I'm really not familiar with it, tbh. I just DDL or stream everything lol.
Couldn't ever find people to get invites from for private torrents and didn't want to mooch in forums where no one knew me so Usenet it is.
about 90% Usenet for me.
I use both. Rarr Stack and Sabnzbd and alldbird and a program that emulates qtorent.
Have found that some content is just easier to find on one platform or the other.
I used to use usenet religously, but it became fairly unreliable after a crackdown on NZBMatrix and I haven't really tried it in years. Is it fairly decent again? Lately I use Syncler for streaming through Real Debrid, and pass torrents through that service also.
I only ever used Usenet back in the day when my college threatened to shut off my internet if there was any more p2p traffic.
I use sonarr, radarr (3x), prowlarr and overseer. I get most of what I need from usenet. I have most public teachers too as backup. I want to get stuff in their original language, so it's fine.
But lately I'm looking for multi language (English+French) stuff and I'm having a hard time finding that. On usenet there's nothing and torrents, there are too few french trackers.
I use both private trackers and usenet added to Prowlarr along with Sonarr and Radarr. Usenet has priority, reverts to torrents when it can't find something or if I need some specific release