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[–] CoderKat@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

You gotta stop counting total users. Only active users should be counted. We know there's utterly massive numbers of bots being created. Plus people have multiple accounts from trying out different instances even if they'll only use one.

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

But the bot + duplicate account numbers keep going up and I really like exponential growth

[–] Kichae@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People love vanity metrics, though.

[–] hemmes@vlemmy.net 3 points 1 year ago

Look, I’ve quit Reddit because fuck spez, and now have confirmation bias that needs answering. Just…let me have this.

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[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

wow! look at those bots go! go speed racer!

[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Daily active users is a much more reliable statistic due to bots


Source: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats

[–] Zamboniman@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Yup, came here to say that as well. it's al bots. The active users graph is much more realistic.

And I've been seeing some...odd looking.... comments recently from users at instances known for being mostly bots. Some of these comments really look AI generated, and have a suspicious number of upvotes.

[–] hschen@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah theres no way lemmy instances that were struggling to scale 2 weeks ago with a few thousand users active are supporting 2.5mill suddenly

[–] MsPenguinette@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Just wait until Apollo/RIF/etc actually go dark!

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

I'm waiting for when I open sync for reddit and see a link to sync for lemmy

https://lemmy.world/c/syncforlemmy

[–] Interstellar_1@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The web app wefwef.app is actually a really great alternative to apollo for lemmy! I'm using it right now on android, and while it does feel weird with the ui differences it has gestures and the same interface and generally feels really good.

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[–] OutrageousUmpire@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (19 children)

Good to see, but as with all posts like this, it’s important to note that the really important number is “Active Users” That number has gone up significantly as well, just not as fast as number of accounts.

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[–] CodeMonkeyDance@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

First post, post-Reddit 🥴

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[–] slashzero@hakbox.social 7 points 1 year ago

There was a pretty big jump in active instances, too!

Active daily user count is about 50k.

[–] Discoslugs@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Are any of these accounts bots?

Or maybe how many of these accounts are bots?

Are they all bots?

[–] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Around 95% accounts are bots. Around 90% if we are positive and assume that a lot of redditors joined since the bot farming started.

[–] ramblechat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So what are the Bots doing? Who created them and why? I don't understand the purpose of bots.

[–] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Currently nothing but once activated they may start spamming stuff everywhere. Owners can decide what gets upvotes and what gets downvotes which gives you a lot of power on a platform where downvotes/upvotes mean everything.

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[–] Discoslugs@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Thats seems bad. I know some bots are hepful. But 1 million bots seems like they for something nefariously.

[–] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, I hope that people farming them are just trolling the fediverse and don't plan on using them.

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[–] LokyinN@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] Waitwuhtt@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] maess@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] forkball@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Mom's forgetty

[–] RedSky2200@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Mom's spaghetti

[–] arefx@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)
[–] gnarly@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My spez comic got over 1.5mil views advertising Lemmy yesterday and at least #12 on r/all so I'm hopeful they're not all bots too :P

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[–] JoumanaKayrouz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

More than 12

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[–] ekZeno@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago
[–] realbaconator@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I just found out about this project/the fediverse, been looking for several weeks for the best replacement to Reddit and this is by far the most promising. Also, as a self-hosting enthusiast, I'm liking this place more and more by the minute. With any luck increased visibility will continue to push activity & content. Power to the people.

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[–] clavismil@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are these real people or bots? So far lemmy and the fediverse have been great experience I like it and won't go back to reddit. Hope it's real people and we can enjoy this new fresh start!

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm a new person that joined within the last few days, so they're not all bots, that's for sure.

[–] RoyalEngineering@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That’s what a bot would say!!

[–] Moops@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I am too a human who enjoys conversing with other humanoids. I am new but let me say to you I am very flesh blood fellow person.

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[–] d4rknusw1ld@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I’m enjoying it so much more with the app development. Devs trying to accomplish the goal of instilling the feeling of Apollo for us refugees coming. I just needed useful communities, with posts that people reply to with more and more information. Reddit still defeats lemmy there but I’m hoping it changes a bit.

[–] noodles@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

(Lemmy.world) server:

[–] SilenceInTheVoid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Apollo user coming over from Reddit

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Very nice to see this for Lemmy.

[–] gnarly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Agreed, I know there's arguments about bots and such in this thread but this is all good news. If we have these problems, it means we're doing something right.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

It shows 50,000 active users per day compared to 2,500,000 total users per day. Most of the difference, presumably, is dormant bot accounts. If they were all activated and started posting one day, they could probably bring the network down.

I'm confused though by the active comments per day being about 100 times the active users per day. Surely users are not commenting 100 times per day on average. Is there something wrong with how the comments are being counted?

The posts count also looks a bit odd, since it means active users are making more than 10 posts a day on average. That seems implausibly high.

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[–] LDClaudius@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man, so much has changed. Glad I made the switch to Lemmy.

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[–] Nothus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Is that why it takes 5 minutes to load a page?

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