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YouTube is finally cracking down on third-party apps like ReVanced (www.androidpolice.com)

submitted 6 months ago by Wahots@pawb.social to c/android@lemdro.id

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I'm sure they are working on a youtube messaging app behind the scenes.

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[–] Arelin@lemmy.zip 105 points 6 months ago (2 children)

finally

This article is just a youtube premium ad 🤢

As far as what you get when you go Premium, you won't see any more ads within the app or the videos that you're watching. Plus, you'll gain access to background play, along with being able to download videos on the go. And perhaps what makes this plan even more worthwhile is that you get access to YouTube Music, which features over 100 million commercial free songs. Now, the one drawback is that these features don't come for free, with a subscription costing $13.99 per month in the US.

[–] overload@sopuli.xyz 19 points 6 months ago (4 children)

But premium doesn't have sponsorblock

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

YouTube is testing a feature where it'll pop up a button to intelligently skip ahead if you skip once, or so I've heard.

That sounds a lot like sponsorblock.

Though it won't be fully automatic.

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[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I would gladly pay for Premium if it actually gave you a decent user experience but it doesn't.

I use 3rd party apps because they don't fill my feed with garbage content. They just show me what I ask for.

Not to mention apps like GrayJay that integrate content from other sources in the same app.

Or that it YouTube does nothing about creators filling content with their own ads.

I was really interested in Nebula before I glanced at their privacy policy and realized that it has all the same data-mining and selling as every other modern web service.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 81 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If they hadn't gotten so obnoxious with ads that it was impossible to use YouTube without blocking them, I wouldn't have used the vanced/revanced stuff in the first place.

They find a way to prevent using those, I'm out totally, including on the few devices I didn't care about playing the ads because it was just background noise.

Oh well

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 28 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I even had Youtube premium for a bit. Revanced is nice just to dial back some of the bells and whistles that isn't relevant to the video platform. The official app feels clunky.

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 28 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I had YouTube Premium after Vanced was killed. I gave it a fair go. No ads- great, it is now back to how it was a decade ago. But also no SponsorBlock - and my God, how many channels I realised I couldn't listen to anymore when 50% of every video was an ad for one of three online services or games I'm definitely not going to ever pay for. So now I just... don't watch YouTube on my phone. Hurray?

Seriously, if the ads are supposedly worth €15 a month, pay the fucking YouTubers enough that I don't have to listen to a linguist try to sell me WarThunder

[–] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

I know, right? So many creators even explain why they do that, it's because they can't make enough from youtube to do this full time, but they can from raid shadow legends.

YouTube premium would be worth something if all the creativity their creators have to use to make a living despite the pay was used for better content.

[–] dmtalon@infosec.pub 6 points 6 months ago

I still think premium should allow you to block sponsors. YT should make them be sections that are removable.

[–] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Id really like to use revanced while paying for premium if it means it doesn't get borked every x months and I don't risk getting banned, kind of like Spotify tolerates 3rd party clients as long as they are premium accounts

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[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 12 points 6 months ago

Wouldn't mind the ads if they weren't deliberately twice as loud as the music! That's just fucking rude

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 48 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (7 children)

We need better alternatives

Also YT premium is not a good solution as it does nothing for privacy

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 31 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Video is nearly impossible to host in a sustainable way. The bandwidth usage is among the most expensive things you can host. The only way you’re getting something better than YouTube is if it’s tax funded somehow.

[–] Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Public libraries should host the peoples internet. As a service, not to generate tax dollars, not to break even.

Jumping from platform to platform is just delaying the enshitification.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

Nebula is very sustainable.

The 20mbit bandwidth of a 4k video might have been a lot 10 years ago, but it's child's play now.

[–] falkerie71@sh.itjust.works 27 points 6 months ago

Nebula works for now because it still has nowhere near the amount of videos being served and uploaded per minute than YouTube. Having to cache videos in servers all around the globe takes up significant cost too.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 15 points 6 months ago

I also pay for Nebula.

I'm fine paying for a service, but I'm not going to pretend that it is a YouTube equivalent.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

20 mbps may be child's play, not often for download only, not upload, and then don't forget that just a hundred viewers will generate 2 gbps of traffic. And hundred viewers are nothing.

Sure, most videos are not 4k. The bandwidth usage still goes up pretty quick.

I think PeerTube's idea that viewers of the same video can serve each other is an interesting concept. Problem is, afaik most are not using dekstop computers anymore, and most of the time people are living off batteries and their traffic limited cellular data subscription, where this is probably a very costly operation for the user.

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[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Also YT premium is not a good solution as it does nothing for privacy

Neither is accessing any Google service in the first place, ReVanced or not.

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[–] LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Piped exists and has continued to work smoothly for me this whole time. There are many public instances but running your own is best

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[–] colonial@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

We need better alternatives

We'd need a quantum leap in storage and bandwidth first - orders of magnitude better, if we want competing to be financially sane 😮‍💨

Maybe when Google is (hopefully eventually) shattered into a million pieces by some US judge, YouTube could be splintered into several smaller companies, each with some portion of the infrastructure and channels/videos - thus forcing competition. Vaguely similar to the Bell divestiture.

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[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 43 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I have YouTube Premium but I have to use ReVanced to block shorts because it's terrible for my ADHD. My mental health has improved ever since I ripped that fucker out of my life.

I want to control what I see, and this isn't even about them being paid anymore, it's just about forcing me to see what I don't want to see.

[–] Linguist@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I know it will eventually be blocked by YouTube like Twitch did but you could try ublock Origin with this filter list or another custom filter list. Works pretty well for me.

https://github.com/gijsdev/ublock-hide-yt-shorts

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh on desktop it's not a problem, I use an extension to block shorts

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-shorts-block/

[–] cyberic@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I also use Unhook https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-recommended-videos/

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Another good one I use! As well as AdNauseam and SponsorBlock, obviously :P

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 31 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Good luck YouTube

The official YouTube app will provide one of the better experiences...

Ha ha ha ha... the author must be dreaming or hasn't tried many other apps. NewPipe lets you run videos at custom speed, and optionally pitch-shift videos. And you can save videos to watch on any app capable of playing video files stored on disk.

[–] blindsight@beehaw.org 7 points 6 months ago

Agreed... The second half of this "article" reads like an ad/puff piece.

A better researched article would go into the difference between API access, scrapers, and modifying the YouTube app, and question which of those YouTube will be able to detect. Maybe even discuss using region-pricing with a VPN to get YouTube premium for cheaper.

[–] Never_Sm1le@lemdro.id 6 points 6 months ago

And don't have to drag the seekbar, simply tap wherever you want to play

[–] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 24 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If they manage to break third-party applications, and they cannot be repaired, then I am totally just leaving YouTube entirely. It's not worth it at that point.

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

I agree. I refuse to watch ads or to pay for an experience that offers less than a fraction of what Newpipe offers. When Newpipe is no longer viable I'll repurpose that time to chipping away at my reading list.

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[–] Nia_The_Cat@beehaw.org 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I don't think YouTube understands a lot of our willpower to just close their app the second an ad appears.

If there isn't a way to watch without ads, then I'm just going to download videos and watch them instead.

If they stop that from working, I'll figure something else out, do we need to get the shaky movie theater camcorder people to start recording their YT premium videos now too?

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 18 points 6 months ago

Interesting, I guess we will have to see how quickly and widely this is enforced. I haven't used the official YouTube app for a very long time and have relied heavily on third party alternatives (Vanced/ReVanced, NewPipe, LibreTube, Grayjay). There is absolutely no way I am paying $17 a month for YouTube so I think a family plan would probably be the best option, though at this point I think I'd be more likely to just abandon the platform altogether.

[–] KirbyProton@feddit.uk 18 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I quit when they took away the dislike counter, so many said they would but didn't. All I ever see about Youtube is people complaining about their new shitty tactics... just leave, it''s the ONLY way to get any changes. They will never change if people keep using the platform.

Suck it up, leave, you won't regret it.

[–] trk@aussie.zone 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But where do I go instead for my aquarium hobbyist videos? 😥

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[–] lud@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

How did you quit? Is there any other video platform?

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[–] limerod@reddthat.com 11 points 6 months ago

I use the official YouTube app with premium. But, it glitches and reloads on its own after a while. Not to mention the UI frame rate getting capped to the video frame rate when playing a video.

3rd party apps let me download and browse the videos in a better way and I can also download them in 4k resolution in HDR format.

[–] petrescatraian@libranet.de 6 points 6 months ago

@Wahots guess they'll do just like they did with ublock origin ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯.

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