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Firefox spokesperson Christopher Hilton tells The Verge that the browser has seen a more than 50 percent jump in users in Germany and a nearly 30 percent increase in France.

Brave saw a similar increase in users after Apple started letting users choose their default browsers on iOS 17.4 in the EU last week.

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[–] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 38 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

But... But... But... We are Apple and we know best. Our users don't want choices!

[–] vodkasolution@feddit.it 1 points 6 months ago
  • Safari is the bestestest of all browsers!
[–] PixelAlchemist@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Aren’t they all still WebKit under the hood though? Until they allow other web engines this is still just the illusion of choice.

[–] darkevilmac@lemmy.zip 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I believe part of the DMA means that they're allowed to use their own engines. Whether they have that ready right now I'm not sure, but I'm sure it's in the works.

[–] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I thought Firefox said that they were going to have to write two different browsers so they weren't going to.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Why would they? They already have a Mac build, I can't imagine it'd be that huge of a difference, but maybe iOS is a lot more different than I realize.

[–] AProfessional@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The new browser option iOS exposed is a very strict and limiting custom API to make a browser engine. It’s purposefully obtuse to be terrible but compliant.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Despite Apple's lies, iOS and macOS are still pretty different beasts with their own quirks. And iOS is way more tightly locked down and under Apple's thumb than macs.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

I suppose I'm not surprised. Typical Apple shenanigans.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You could already run Webkit Firefox on iOS - I have for years - it's how I keep tabs synced between devices

I'm pretty sure this is Firefox with Gecko (is gecko still the engine? My memory ain't workin too great right now).

[–] AProfessional@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

iOS shows a dialog for choosing a browser option in the EU now. Nothing to do with engines.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Analytics nit:

30% of increase in daily installs ≠ 30% increase in users. It might lead to that, but only they maintain the increased install rates and maintain active users.

If I my sandwich shop sells 30% more sandwiches one day, that doesn’t mean I’m certain to make 30% more money at the end of the year. I might make more, I might make less.

Edit: also, this OS update has just rolled out. So this peak might last for a few days, then change once people are no longer getting the initial set up screen.

[–] D_Air1@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

So as it turns out, if you give people a choice. Some of them will pick something else.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I can't live without Firefox on my android phone

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 6 months ago

Unfortunately, I had to decide for Opera instead. It's much better for larger screens: It properly scales desktop websites and has desktop-style tab switcher.

[–] romp_2_door@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@Mistral@lemmings.world do you think these new users will stick around?

[–] 18_24_61_b_17_17_4@lemmy.world -4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I saw you posted this in the Firefox community as well. Why did you mention Brave in the title here but not there?

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Because that's the Firefox community?

[–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Ikr? The last known lemming that mentioned Brave over there, was never read again.