Confronting Kyle Rittenhouse? Be careful, no sudden movements. We wouldn't want him to feel threatened, now would we?
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I mean, based on history so long as you don't chase him down and try to take his gun, knock him to the ground and move to bludgeon him, or try a false surrender with intent to shoot him you're probably fine.
But seriously, if you think he just started shooting at the drop of a hat, watch the trial footage.
He's a dumbass kid who should never have gone to the protest in the first place (but had every legal right to be where he was) turned right wing grifter because no one else will have him, but all three of his shootings definitely fall under self defense.
I'll take my downvotes now for not expressing views that contradict trial evidence now, thanks.
Just like the Heard vs Depp case, people have already decided on the truth and they don't care that the evidence at trial painted a very different story than the one liberal media told you to believe.
Like you said, Kyle was a dumb kid who was in the wrong place at the wrong time, and he was retreating every single time he shot someone. I hate this case because I'm left in the awkward position of defending a rightoid but that trial was very thorough and those are the facts.
Kyle Rittenhouse is the Greta Thunberg of the right-wing. Change my mind.
"Charlie Kirk has said a lot of racist things," said a student addressing Rittenhouse from the audience.
"What racist things has Charlie Kirk said?" Rittenhouse challenged. "We're gonna have a little bit of a dialogue of what racist things that Charlie Kirk said."
The student responded of Kirk: "He says that we shouldn't celebrate Juneteenth, we shouldn't celebrate Martin Luther King day—we should be working those days—he called Ketanji Brown Jackson an affirmative action hire, he said all this nonsense about George Floyd, and he said he'd be scared if a Black pilot was on a plane. Does that not seem racist?"
"I don't know anything about that," Rittenhouse said from the stage, prompting jeers among the audience.
"Does that seem racist is a yes or no question, Kyle," yelled one attendee.
"Well, after all the things I just told you, would you consider that hate speech," the student asked Rittenhouse, who had a dog with him onstage.
"I'm not gonna comment on that," Rittenhouse said, sparking more noise from the crowd.
Seconds later, Rittenhouse abruptly exited the stage to cheers from the crowd. The attendees were then promptly ordered to depart the venue.
“I don’t know anything about that,”
This seems to be the canned response to all "uncomfortable" topics.
It seems that right-wing "debates" are not about arguing a point or another, but bringing up the "right" talking points, and backing out the wrong ones.
Please don't normalizing hating on people for not knowing something. If you think he actually knows kirk said these things, then please provide the proof. But if you are simply attacking him for admitting he doesn't know something, then you're part of the problem.
There’s a very simple way to answer this sort of question that was posed — by condemning the blatant racism of the statements themselves while acknowledging he didn’t know if Kirk had said them — and he decided not to do that.
The issue is he couldn't know at that moment if what the students said or their portrayal of it is accurate. Furthermore, people can't just instantly reach informed conclusions about things, a lot of people need, yk time to think. If I try to think about something on the spot I'll just stutter and not make any sense
"I am not aware of these comments or their context, but if said—yes, I agree they are racist." Not hard.
That's easy to say in retrospect, it's hard for a lot of people to answer something they didn't expect on the spot, even if they know the answer
Careful, he may feel the urge to self-defend again from hecklers.
I honestly feel bad for this kid. His parents are clearly unhinged, which caused him to end up thinking he needed to defend businesses in another state from rioters, and the right using him as a tool of propaganda along with the expectations that come with that cannot be healthy for the mind.
I get what you're saying. He was a kid and probably had a fucked up childhood that led to everything. It's rare that people like that develop in a vacuum. But that's an explanation of how he got here, not an excuse.
Now he's an adult. There are definitely people on the right using him, but he made the decision to let them. He could have easily slunk into the shadows and gone on with his life. Instead, he felt the court acquittal wasn't enough and had to continue to prove he was right for his actions on the public stage. That's his choice and his alone.
He deserves the ridicule.
I get you on this. A lot of people really struggle to maintain empathy with people they may otherwise find despicable, but to me, increasing empathy in the world among and for literally everyone is a paramount goal. Take this example: A huge percentage of men who sexually assault children were sexually assaulted themselves as children. It's easy to dehumanize someone in this situation, but the reality is they have been both a victimizer and a victim in their lives. People are way more complex than our present instant judgment-based society allows for.
All that said, all Kyle Rittenhouse has to do is shut his ugly goddamn mouth if he wants to stop getting lambasted by the public.
He's clearly making a decent living from this, all because he murdered someone and got away with it. I feel much worse about the family of the dead, or people working minimum wage trying to get by. I feel just about zero sympathy for this kid. Sure, maybe he was raised in a bad position, but it was his choice to do what he did. Do you see many other people raised in bad situations doing what he did? That's on him, not his parents.
I'm sure a significant number of people in his life told him how to do the right thing and he choose racially based violence and murdered people.
There is no reason to feel sorry for him. At best we understand how he got to be such a waste of oxygen and try to counter that.