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Avast, the cybersecurity software company, is facing a $16.5 million fine after it was caught storing and selling customer information without their consent. The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) announced the fine on Thursday and said that it’s banning Avast from selling user data for advertising purposes.

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[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 152 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They definitely made more than that selling data what a fucking joke

[–] db2@lemmy.world 36 points 6 months ago

F*C fines are just protection money payments.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 66 points 6 months ago (1 children)

$16.5 million is not even a slap on the wrist

[–] Contend6248@feddit.de 14 points 6 months ago

A great business model actually

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 63 points 6 months ago

Five years ago, I posted on Reddit about how Avast had installed a browser without my consent and set it as default while I was out of town and away from my computer. That post has had comments added to it several times a year ever since, meaning that they're still trying that nonsense. They stole my data without my consent by importing all of my browser data, and now it's come out that they blatantly sold it without my consent as well.

I said it then, and I say it now: If you install something without my knowledge or consent, you're a virus, plain and simple.

[–] LoremIpsumGenerator@lemmy.world 60 points 6 months ago

Cybersec company ❌

Advertisement/Data mining ✔️

[–] Kinglink@lemmy.world 57 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Jesus Christ.

Remember when Google's Motto was "Don't be Evil" It was supposed to be a jab at Microsoft, but it feels like every year tech companies find news ways to just be fucking evil.

PS. Google kind of fails to live up to that motto too, I don't even know if it's still an official motto.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 43 points 6 months ago

Google execs knew this motto will just get in the way of maximizing profits for shareholders, so they dropped it a few years ago.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 32 points 6 months ago

I don’t even know if it’s still an official motto.

It's not

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 22 points 6 months ago (6 children)

No they officially (quietly) dropped it like a decade ago

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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago

Kind of? They would happily sell your mother heroine and auction off her house. They fail at not being evil like Antarctica fails at being hospitable to palm trees.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Corporations have no soul to damn and no body to incarcerate.

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[–] taanegl@lemmy.world 52 points 6 months ago (4 children)

This is a careful reminder to be VERY SCEPTICAL about not only "anti-viruses" (like bro, Windows defender is good enough), but also browsers. There is a high probability that the company is either a data broker or fintech... looking at you, Opera.

[–] kworpy@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

If you use antivirus software you're a dumbass. Just don't download viruses?

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[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 50 points 6 months ago

Do we know how much money they made on it? If it was more than $16.5 then it was still a good step on their balance sheet.

This stuff needs to be fined at the full income they made from the tool plus some penalty. Corporations only care about their balance sheets.

[–] Interstellar_1@pawb.social 41 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's horrifying. I remember using the avast private browser when I was younger as to not get tracked by Google chrome, but i was just getting tracked by avast instead. :(

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 25 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's capitalism. You get to choose who steals your personal data.

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I kinda feel like capitalism is treating me like a lemon thief these days.

[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 4 points 6 months ago

You lemon stealing whore!

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[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 39 points 6 months ago

And I'm sure that fine was as high or higher than the profit they made from the data... what, it wasn't?!

[–] crusty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] EvilEyedPanda@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

Jesus christ right!! I'm curious how much they made off that data.

[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 25 points 6 months ago

Ah, the snake oil turned out to be poisonous.

[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This is fucking garbage.

When a company gets caught with their hand in the cookie jar, it's not a punishment to put one of the cookies back.

Fines should be ten TIMES what the company made from their misbehaviour, not ten percent.

[–] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 6 months ago

that is one of two reasons why I stopped using their software.

Too many scare-ware screens and too much bloatware that you have to be mindful about not installing.

[–] kworpy@lemm.ee 13 points 6 months ago

Can't believe a company with a notorious history of spying on users is at it again for the 234th time!

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Is there a class action lawsuit?

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Avast, the cybersecurity software company, is facing a $16.5 million fine after it was caught storing and selling customer information without their consent.

The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) announced the fine on Thursday and said that it’s banning Avast from selling user data for advertising purposes.

From at least 2014 to 2020, Avast harvested user web browsing information through its antivirus software and browser extension, according to the FTC’s complaint.

“We are committed to our mission of protecting and empowering people’s digital lives,” Avast spokesperson Jess Monney said in a statement to The Verge.

“While we disagree with the FTC’s allegations and characterization of the facts, we are pleased to resolve this matter and look forward to continuing to serve our millions of customers around the world.”

In January, the FTC reached a settlement with Outlogic (formerly X-Mode Social) that prevents the data broker from selling information that can be used to track users’ locations.


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[–] noorbeast@lemmy.zip 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

“While we disagree with the FTC’s allegations and characterization of the facts, we are pleased to resolve this matter and look forward to continuing to serve our millions of customers around the world.”...translation, we regret being caught but look forward to the opportunity of exploring alternate ways to exploiting consumers for profit.

[–] krimson@feddit.nl 11 points 6 months ago
[–] slowroll@r.nf 5 points 6 months ago

this, i prefer the service based on Free and Open Source Software,

[–] n0m4n@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I wonder what other uses there are to sell data that is not for advertising? My second thought goes to what is in place to stop a middleman from saying that they would not sell information for advertising purposes, but selling the data for "quality control of data acquisition" purposes. If you are getting a service for free, you are the product.

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[–] danielfgom@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

They should be put out of business and those responsible jailed

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