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After 2 years and 3 months my pixel 6 got too hot one too many times while charging and using and the battery expanded. Now I replaced it and got a pixel 8.

Now I don't want that to happen again. I know this chip gets hot when charging. And I don't mind slow charging at all, I'm used to overnight charging.

With my current setup I got a 20w cable charger and a 10w wireless one, and I want to know how to get even slower, less heating charging rates. What adapter brand is reputable, and is the slowest, battery friendliest that's still reasonable for use... If this phone also just lasts me 2 years instead of the 5 that I'm gonna get os updates I'm gonna be mad... I'm okay with a battery replacement in general after a while but that isn't really doable if the entire case is bent like it is on my P6...

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[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Slow charging only makes a tiny difference IMO, modern devices don't get very hot while charging and Li-ion is fine up to about 45C during charging.

The best option is stop charging at 80% which will substantially improve battery life, my Samsung has this built in. But for phones that don't you can use a wifi power plug and a Home Assistant automation to turn it off when your phone hits 80%.

[–] JustARegularNerd@aussie.zone 5 points 6 months ago

Oh my gosh, that solution is incredibly smart. I've been wanting to keep my phone below 80% since I got it, but ultimately was trying to manually check it and gave up, and two years later my Pixel 4a battery is pretty poor.

I'm setting this up, thank you so much. I think I do even have a WiFi adapter somewhere I hadn't found a use for.

[–] ViciousTurducken@lemmy.one 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Are there any easy to set up home assistants that are privacy friendly?

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Home assistant is pretty easy IMO once you get a feel for it, and entirely local so very privacy friendly.

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I wish we could replace batteries...

[–] MayaHorsewoman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Same... It should really be a default or a regulation... It also annoys me how flawed the fair phones are as devices...

[–] cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What flaws are you referring to? I'm perfectly happy with my FP4. Just wondering what flaws I should be annoyed about.

[–] FutileRecipe@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

What flaws are you referring to?

For me, lack of security. I also vaguely remember hearing that their repairability was overstated/limited due to part shortages, but I never looked into that as the lack of security is a deal breaker for me.

https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/7208-8y-security-updates-on-fairphone-5-will-the-devs-consider-porting-grapheneos/20

[–] Blaubarschmann@feddit.de 1 points 6 months ago

Replaceable batteries are coming back in the EU though due to the battery regulation (EU) 2023/1542 which requires portable batteries to be removable and replaceable

[–] excitingburp@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Slow chargers are really hard to fuck up, you're good with almost anything. That being said, slow charging is 10w - so you already have what you need.

[–] MayaHorsewoman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago

Alright, perfect! The charging pad is also most convenient

[–] tty5@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If you charge overnight set an alarm - most phones will automatically slow down charging to the safest rate that will get it to 100% before alarm

[–] MayaHorsewoman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But it still quick charges and gets pretty warm until it reaches 80% and then continues an hour before the alarm :/

[–] CoriolisSTORM88@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

My 6 pro won't slow charge until after 10pm I've noticed. My alarm is at 04:30, so if I start charging at bedtime, 08:30ish, it doesn't slow charge. It's weird that way. Already on my second 6p, my first I've died one night, woke up with a flashing gray white screen, and it was hot. Got it rmad thankfully.

[–] tty5@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Quick Google search confirms this: adaptive charging only works if alarm if 5am or later and charging starts at 10pm or later

[–] Blaubarschmann@feddit.de 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yes slow charging is one factor to prolong battery life. You can even go down to 5w or less. But another important factor is not having your phone charged at 100% for long durations, because at high voltage the battery degrades faster. So don't leave your phone plugged in when it's fully charged, try to keep it between 30 and 80% all the time for maximum lifetime

[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

At least with Android 14 (I don't recall if it did it before) when I plug my pixel 6 in at night it goes to an 'adaptive charging mode' to accomplish just what you're asking for with the idea that it slows charging to compete around the time of the next alarm. So maybe you don't need to actively pursue it if the software is regulating the input there?

[–] Markaos@lemmy.one 3 points 6 months ago

That just uses normal fast charging to get to 80%, then stops the charge and finally resumes charging about an hour or two before the planned "charged by" time. No slowing down.

Oh, and it also has (or had on Android 13) a cool bug where it just stops charging if it fails to reach 80% by the time it wants to resume charging (for example if you put the phone on a slow charger late at night - that's how I woke up with 60% battery after 4 hour sleep).

So I just gave up on the idea of using a slow charger to better preserve the battery because the phone clearly wasn't expected to be used that way.

[–] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What about if I don't have an alarm? I don't need one to wake up.

[–] NemoWuMing@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I set an alarm at 7 am, no sound, no vibration. It activates adaptive charging without waking me up

[–] NemoWuMing@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I bought a power bar with a timer on it, so I can leave my headset, laptop, old phone plugged in without overcharging them.

[–] spiderplant@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago

Gonna add on to this, most people are right in saying get a low amp charger(amps are the more important that volts afaik) 1A is easiest to source but did see a .5A one time. Don't leave charging at 100% for long periods of time.

What is missing from the comments IMO is anyone talking about how you use your phone. Minimise screen time and bloated software that is always running/sending data. Lineage (or graphene OS since you're on a pixel) with no google apps will prolong your battery. For now I've just got some banking apps, molly(signal fork), jerboa and slack on my phone. My 3000mAh battery from 2016 is now lasting over 24 hours instead of less than 8 hours when using mainstream social media apps.

[–] confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If I want to slow charge I use a USB 2 port on my PC.

[–] catculation@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 months ago

Don't do that, PC usb ports can break the charging port as the power output is unregulated better use some 5v1A rated charger

[–] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Old 5w iPhone chargers are good if you want to leave your phone charging over night, but the reality is after about 2 years the battery will still be worn and need replacement. You can limit the charge level but then again that doesn't really change anything because it will still need to be replaced in a slightly longer amount of time (say 2.5-3 years instead). The best way to prolong your battery health is to not use your phone and leave it powered off at 50% in a dark closet. I personally prefer semi fast chargung only when it reaches 20-30% and unplug at 60-70 or whatever I feel is enough for what I will do for the rest of the day

[–] MayaHorsewoman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 months ago

I am fine with the battery needing replacement in general, I want to prevent it from getting warm often, so that it doesn't bloat again when it's put of warranty like my P6 did...