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[–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

So......Tesla are the new way to kill persons now?

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Oh no

Anyways

[–] malloc@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Tragic way to die. I wouldn’t wish this even on my worst enemies.

We all watch the videos of how to deal with this exact situation but in reality only a few people would be able to react accordingly to save themselves.

The article describes the area of water as a “pond” but the vehicle was fully submerged. Rescuers had trouble with rescue attempts due to the depth. Seems more like a lake to me.

[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

"there is no technical difference between lakes and ponds, according to the National Park Service. While the distinction between lakes and ponds can be a bit blurry, there are some general guidelines. For example, if sunlight can reach the bottom of the entire body of water, it's generally considered a pond, according to the National Park Service. Conversely, if the body of water is deep enough in some places that sunlight cannot penetrate it, it's generally considered a lake.

When it comes to size, though, there are no exact guidelines. Ponds are generally smaller than lakes, but there's no universal standard. That means some things we call a pond might be considered a lake by some. And some lakes may be more pond-like to some people."

https://www.reconnectwithnature.org/news-events/the-buzz/whats-the-difference-lake-vs-pond/

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Actually there is a definition, from my old environmental engineering textbook:

A lake is any body of water deep enough to submerge a Tesla Model S

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A few years back, a woman drove her car into a small retaining pond off a highway and 2 of the kids in the car drowned. Everyone was amazed that a car could be completely submerged in such a small pond. Those suckers are deep!
https://www.twincities.com/2013/11/28/st-louis-park-drowning-accident-spurs-questions-about-retention-ponds/

[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

But the sun shined on them while they drowned, so...

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 months ago

but in reality only a few people would be able to react accordingly to save themselves.

It should frankly happen by design. Humans can't be expected to let the water in while submerged, that takes will and under stress it's hard to think.

Say, have pressure sensors outside which would open some small windows, I don't know.

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[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

If your car ever gets submerged, unbuckle your seatbelt, roll the windows down and once the water gets high enough in the car, you can open the door or climb through the window. This is pure panic from someone who should know better.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (9 children)

In an old car with crank windows, that'll work. In a new car, the electrics have to still be working, and in a Tesla the OS has to still be running.

[–] TallonMetroid@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you can't get the windows down before the water pressure seals them shut, it's still survivable without a glass breaker if you keep your wits about you and the car doesn't flip. You'd need to take a deep breath right before the interior completely fills with water and then just sit there until the pressure mostly equalizes. There was at least one reported case of someone in a submerged car specifically crediting their survival to Mythbusters successfully showing just that, but a variation of the scenario involving the car flipping while sinking into deeper water later proved to be much less survivable.

[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Someone else in this comment thread pointed out that Tesla's windows are laminated and not tempered so a glass break doesn't actually work on them.

I just did a quick "fact check" as I was writing this and apparently there are multiple cars that are going to laminated glass windows. I'll have to add that to the list of things I don't want and have to check next time I'm shopping for a car.

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[–] moitoi@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It was cold out, so she decided to take her Tesla Model X SUV for the four-minute drive rather than walk.

It says everything.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

A four-minute drive is like a 20-minute walk. If it was really that cold, I may have done the same thing.

The way you portray it, "it says everything," is not fair - and yes, I know we're talking about a billionaire. Like, she deserved to die because she didn't want to walk in the cold.

Her death shouldn't have happened the way it did. And again, yes, I know she's a billionaire, fuck billionaires, etc etc. But her mistake was her not being careful while driving, and potentially the car not being safe enough (e.g. doors jam-locked?)

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