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[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

It's cnn I don't trust it

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

No stigma. I assume all such questions have an alternate agenda.

Like I know better than to talk about my stance with any religious nutter. Their beliefs are not grounded in facts and no amount of logic can overcome their emotional outlook. All you can do is make yourself an (enemy) outsider. Anyone that asks me to brand myself on some survey or upon questioning has an agenda, in my opinion. Why should I put my name on some witch hunting list. Witch hunts have always been attacks on academics and abject thinking.

Becoming a first generation atheist is a class in skepticism, misdirection, and manipulation. It is not easy rejecting your entire friends network and questioning foundational ideas learned when we were gullible little children. I'm not about to shoot myself in the foot by feeding the sky wizard monsters with no fundamental logic skills. It's as stupid as walking into a maximum security prison and opening all the doors. I'll always defer to answer such a question, select other, or nondenominational.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 3 points 8 months ago

One cannot reason a person out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.

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[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Wtf does coming out mean? Atheists hardly proselytize, what is the process of "coming out"

[–] jbrains@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Identifying openly in public.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 3 points 8 months ago

I don't openly identify as someone who is atheist for the same reasons I don't openly identify as someone who doesn't collect stamps. It just doesn't come up if I avoid the places where people tend to ask.

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[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

"Hesitant to identify because of the social stigma?"

This is proof they fear what they don't understand. I exist without faith in a higher power. I don't share "not believing in a god" because it's like saying "my eyes are not brown". It doesn't tell you what color they are.

Me saying I'm "atheist" tells you absolutely fuck all about what I do believe. I do believe that humanity has the potential to solve all the problems we have right now, and it would be likely easier without religion interfering.

Murder, theft, intentionally harming relationships (etc.) and other crimes are things I simply don't want to happen to me. So I won't do them to others. Seems easy enough.

If we assume everyone we meet is suffering, and on their own path away from it, we tend to be better people toward them, and our own struggles help too.

I came to the conclusion a while back that all these religious nuts end up doing what an authoritarian tells them to do, because they understand the authoritarian, and fear everything else.

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (6 children)

As Hitchens said, atheism isn't a real thing. Like creating a word for those who don't believe in unicorns.

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[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

Sounds quite US centric. Atheism/agnosticism is normal in the UK.

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