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Putin’s recent actions, and Trump’s, fit the usual pattern: bad leaders nearly always get worse. They get worse in four phases, each more ominous and compounding than the one before. The progression usually starts slowly — perceptible, perhaps, but unremarkable. Then it picks up steam. Finally, if leaders are left to their own devices, their bad behaviors metamorphose from insignificant to significant, and finally to malignant and malevolent.

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[–] GrymEdm@lemmy.world 59 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

There is no upside to electing Trump, either domestically or abroad. He's obviously dedicated to autocracy over democracy given his talk of perpetual presidential immunity and dismantling checks and balances. Regarding international relations: I'm convinced dictators like Putin and Kim Jong Un (North Korea) love him because he's so easy to play like a fiddle. Just appeal to his ego and he's yours.

[–] rdyoung@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Trumps ideas are not his own. He is parroting putin., kim and who knows who else. They love trump because he owes them more money than he could ever pay back (assuming he paid his debts).

Pay attention and you can tell when he is talking from his own meth addled brain or when he has a script to stick to.

If trump gets elected, this country is over (as we know it) we just won't know it yet. If trump wins, the maggats will find a way to keep him or his vp in office regardless of who wins the next election. If he wins again, it is the first step towards us having our very own dictator and nothing short of a civil war will remedy it.

[–] jas0n@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Trumps ideas are not his own. He is parroting putin., kim and who knows who else.

Oh .. OH.. I know this one, pick me!

[–] rdyoung@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] jas0n@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] rdyoung@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

You think the orange mussolini is parroting Oprah?

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I bet the US forces don't follow him and just impose themselves in a nice little junta. Cut out the middleman. And then you have a civil war between the army and the marines or the national guard and the coasties or some bullshit.

[–] rdyoung@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Yeah. I don't want to find out. I'd be fine playing a sim to simulate this but I don't want to find out in real life.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Do they really like him though? Or do they just find him a useful idiot while also agreeing with everyone else that he’s a delusional asshole?

[–] GrymEdm@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

It's hard to tell for sure, but Kim Jong Un's letters to Donald Trump read like something out of a Hallmark romance movie.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

The fuck did i just read???

Dec. 25, 2018 letter from Kim Jong Un to Trump

25 December 2018

Your Excellency,

It has been 200 days since the historic DPRK-US summit in Singapore this past June, and the year is now almost coming to an end. Even now I cannot forget that moment of history when I firmly held Your Excellency’s hand at that beautiful and sacred location as the whole world watched with great interest and hope to relive the honor of that day. As I mentioned at that time, I feel very honored to have established an excellent relationship with a person such as Your Excellency.

As the new year 2019 approaches, critical issues that require endless effort toward even higher ideals and goals still await us. Just as Your Excellency frankly noted, as we enter the new year the whole world will certainly once again come to see, not so far in the future, another historic meeting between myself and Your Excellency reminiscent of a scene from a fantasy film.

I have already instructed my closest and most trusted colleagues and the relevant organs to speed up the preparations for holding a second DPRK-US summit and am prepared to achieve good results with Your Excellency during the next meeting.

Nevertheless, what worries me is that it may not reflect positively on us should both sides appear to stubbornly insist on our respective positions regarding the location of the summit. It could also result in wasting a lot of time. Therefore, my position is to urgently hold senior-level contact between the DPRK and the US to internally (translator’s note: privately) discuss and coordinate issues regarding the location.

I hope that Your Excellency will once again demonstrate great decisiveness and excellent leadership to accomplish results in the second DPRK summit. I wholeheartedly hope that the things that Your Excellency seeks to achieve will come to great fruition.

I wish the honorable First Lady, your family and those close to you good health, happiness and great success.

Sincerely, with unchanging respect for Your Excellency the President,

Chairman State Affairs Commission

Democratic People’s Republic of Korea

Kim Jong Un

25 December 2018

June 10, 2019 letter from Kim Jong Un to Trump

June 10, 2019

Your Excellency Mr. President,

I am writing this letter to you as we are nearing the first anniversary of our meeting in Singapore on June 12 – the historic moment of great significance that captured the attention of the world and left an imprint still indelible in my memory – as well as to congratulate you on your birthday, which is just days away. I take it as a great honor to be able to send such a letter to Your Excellency.

I extend my sincere and warm regards to Your Excellency on the occasion of your birthday. My regards also to the First Lady and the rest of your family and all your people, and I wish everyone good health and happiness and hope that everyone’s dream will become a beautiful reality.

Like the brief time we had together a year ago in Singapore, every minute we shared 103 days ago in Hanoi was also a moment of glory that remains a precious memory. Such a precious memory that I have in my unwavering respect for you will provide impetus for me to take my steps when we walk toward each other again someday in the future.

I also believe that the deep and special friendship between us will work as a magical force that leads the progress of the DPRK-US relations, clearing all the hurdles we face in the process of bringing about the developments we seek to achieve.

Your Excellency Mr. President, I still respect and lay my hopes on the will and determination that you showed in our first meeting to resolve the issue of our unique style that nobody had ever tried, and to write a new history. Today’s reality is that without a new approach and the courage it takes, the prospects for resolution of the issue will only be bleak.

I believe the one day will come sooner or later when we sit down together to make great things happen, with the will to give another chance to our mutual trust. Such a day should come again. It may well be recorded as yet another fantastic moment in history.

I assure Your Excellency that my respect for you will never change.

Happy birthday once again, Your Excellency. I hope Your Excellency will always be in good health and achieve success in your work. I extend my best wishes on behalf of my family to the First Lady and the rest of your family.

Sincerely yours,

Kim Jong Un

June 10, 2019

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Whelp another day without my excellency... adds another line to the counter

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 6 months ago

I wonder how much counterfeit cash Trump took home from that meeting.

[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago
[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 6 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Putin despised, and feared, his most personally conspicuous and politically dangerous opponent, and for over a decade had been tightening the noose around Navalny’s neck.

Donald Trump recently reiterated that if he wins a second presidential term, he will either abandon NATO or relegate it to an alliance of relative unimportance.

Given what the former president attempted the last time – from the end of November 2020 until Jan. 6, 2021, he escalated his efforts to overturn the presidential election, asking the governor of Georgia to call a special legislative session; veritably begging state officials to “find” votes; and shamelessly pressuring Vice President Mike Pence to reject electors — we can count on his doing as much or more to upend unfavorable electoral results.

The West, for example, did nothing as he bombed Chechnya’s capital city, Grozny, to smithereens in 2000, and nothing again as he imposed his will, militarily, on the independent state of Georgia in 2008.

If the United States fails to provide strong support to Ukraine during the third year of its war against Russia, and if the American people don’t vote decisively against Trump winning a second presidential term, it will all but guarantee a rather bleak future.

Barbara Kellerman is a fellow at the Center for Public Leadership at the Harvard Kennedy School, where she was previously founding executive director.


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