I remember a ton of people saying the exact same thing during the 2016 primary. When he wins the primary they'll all fall in line. I'll be pleasantly surprised if they prove me wrong, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Likely what'll happen with the "uncommitted" votes in the Dem primary as well, which is why the folks being all, "You want Trump to win" are dumb af.
Except that the people voting "uncommitted" aren't actually saying they wouldn't vote Biden in the general.
Some of them are.
Until Republicans do the "unthinkable" and actually vote for a candidate that doesn't have an 'R' next to their name, what they say is meaningless.
They won’t. But maybe some of them will fuck off and not vote.
Like what Dems did when Hilary ran 2016.
He made a lot of people in the suburbs feel stupid for supporting him
They are objectively stupid. It’s good that they confront their stupidity.
I agree. One of the issues with conservatives is an unwillingness to introspect. Some have been forced to.
Any decent human would say the same. IF you are a tRump voter, you are a piece of shit.
I get that there is a chunk of “not insane” people out there, but what does it matter really?
The margins in some swing states, in 2016 and 2020, were less than 1%. If even 5% of republican voters have since become never trumpers that could have a big impact.
If even 5% of republican voters have since become never trumpers that could have a big impact.
That if is doing some real heavy lifting in that sentence. I really hope we actually see something like that happen but I'm not holding my breath.
Trump's performance in the primaries shows that he's a weak candidate. The kind of Hailey voter that Trump needs in November are not voting for her, they're voting against him.
When he won SC, Trump bragged that he got "twice" the votes that he was supposed to get. But that's a lie. Hailey got something like 15-20 points higher than the polls predicted. (538 said he was 27 points up, but he ended up winning by 11). If this trend holds for super Tuesday, there is good reason to be optimistic about November.
Both sides are trying to throw the election this year.
It's unfortunate to think one of these sides will win because everyone was scared that one of these parties will win and voted for the other. The idea we have a two party system is essentially a self fulfilling prophecy that we fulfill at the society level (if that even makes sense).
Trump will get Hillary'd
He's not as inspiring as the news and polls wanna force him to be. He couldn't win the first time and literally has only lost momentum
I agree that Trump isn't as popular as he used to be. He ran on the "it's like we're the minorities now" bandwagon and that isn't a phrase I hear out here in urban or suburban Midwest anymore.
It doesn't help that they took rights from their constituents. I think it surprised them how much backlash they got for the anti-choice stuff.
This election is iterally the last election but worse because both of these candidates have lost so much popularity.
Why wouldn’t you vote for the dumb convicted criminal? What is this, America?
He wants to hurt the right people and own the libs.
Do the truffle shuffle!
Aw, c'mon!
There are weaknesses in both major party candidates but I really err to the side of Biden because 51% of America has voted for him in the past. That is just always going to be an easier sell. Trump has never even hit 47% and he had two attempts.
And that is entirely consistent with current polls that show Trump "up" but not above 47%.
But of course it's also not inconsistent with winning and you'd always rather be ahead than behind. Just an important bit of info that gnaws at me when I'm trying to estimate where I think the race is.