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[–] LeftBoobFreckle@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I get the desire for a centralized location but I was hoping Lemmy would be the spot. Forums just seen so fragmented, it's nice to go to one place to see all the discussion instead of having several subpages which honestly have little action. https://lemmy.ml/c/jellyfin seemed like the best replacement for r/Jellyfin

[–] peregus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I totally agree with you! Why didn't they just hosted their own Lemmy instance???

[–] ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Probably for similar reasons as to why they moved from Reddit. Also configuring their own instance to approximate a traditional forum would honestly kind of undermine the whole point of using Lemmy or the like to begin with (at least imo).

I understand the sentiment of wanting them to to make their stuff easier to follow & post to from here and other places in the Fediverse, but from what they wrote, I get the sense that this format simply isn't what they were ever looking for in terms of fielding discussions/questions. Their move to Reddit was more of a compromise for where they were at with the project at the time, but now that Jellyfin's more developed in terms of the software and community, a forum is a more workable prospect.

[–] ericjmorey@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy's moderation tools are severely lacking and they seemed to want to get away from the rank by voting system and the churn created by older but relevant and active discussion being hidden on Reddit and Lemmy.

[–] SocialDoki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Add on user purge behavior and the headaches that causes. Can't count the number of times I've been looking into an issue and came across a two year old reddit thread where the solution had been deleted. Much less likely to happen on a dedicated forum.

[–] SidneyGrant@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Congrats, that’s the kind of mentality that will make me move from Plex to Jellyfin tomorrow evening :)

[–] Jarmer@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I couldn’t be happier having made the move off of plex to jellyfin a couple years back. Plex is basically dead to me since they made their move into enshittification. Jellyfin is perfect! Works great never crashes etc.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

The only thing with jellyfin is the constant subtitle issues for years that are very difficult to resolve I guess and inconsistent across different apps. That and sorting of non movie/show content and not respecting folder view.

Other than that, it's pretty much perfect!

[–] fuzzzerd@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm out of the loop, what's going on with plex?

[–] Jarmer@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

As the others said below, a while back (several years at this point I think?) they decided that instead of improving their core product, they were going to move the entire business model into a really shitty version of free streaming apps. Like the ones that come preloaded on "smart" tvs full of ads and tracking.

They had an extremely long laundry list of bugs and feature requests from LONG TIME users (like me) but decided to ignore them and instead completely destroy their apps with shit.

All the sudden you login to your plex app and it's FILLED with all sorts of content you have no idea where it came from - it's not on your server, etc...

Which is all just sad, because as time passes, they'll just die off and be looked at the same as any other free shitpile streaming app full of ads, instead of what they once were: a really good home media library manager.

[–] mochi@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From what I remember from the last time I opened it, they added streamed content with ads. That's the only thing that seemed weird to me. I think they started charging for streaming content outside of the house as well, but I only ever used it to stream from my PC to my TV.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I stream from my server at my parents' place all the time. No charge. Though I did buy a lifetime pass several years ago.

[–] ilickfrogs@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I've been wanting to make the jump for awhile and I've used jellyfin as a secondary server on my library to test run it. I really enjoy it for a lot of reasons but need to properly figure out reverse proxy before I implement it as my main.

[–] decentralized@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As someone who had to Google a bunch of docker issues and constantly got redirected to locked down subreddits, I'm all for developers hosting their own communities. At least then they have an incentive to keep the communities alive.

[–] MicroWave@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Good for them. Using Discord for development work has never made sense to me.

[–] PriorProject@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also being discussed in the Jellyfin Lemmy (which has some unofficial dev participation): https://lemmy.ca/post/749294

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[–] Prevail90@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But can you make a lemmy.world feed as well. Having one place to go for everything is better than 100 places.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that's the point. They are not in 100 places, they are in one. If you want support about Jellyfin, you go to Jellyfin. It was always kind of stupid with Reddit.

I need support with Jellyfin, so I go to Google, write my query, add Reddit at the end, go to result that may or may not be related, try to discover the difference between the 3 or 4 different but related subreddits to find out which one is the official. Discover that none of them is. Find another sub about cutting cable. There's a vague answer that's similar to your issue but not exactly. Maybe try asking them directly on Twitter.

Now you just go to jellyfin.org and the forum is right there, search there for your issue or write your answer. All in one single official place that is looked at and maintained by the very same team. It's just better overall

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Only one question remains: will it federate

[–] ThatFunnyGuyver@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, yes, yes, please yes! Let it use the ActivityPub protocol, it'll be so epic pogchamp, fire lit fam 🙏🏻

[–] vividspecter@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I was just thinking that common forum software implementing ActivityPub would be a great way to link all of these disparate web forums that are still active and have useful content.

[–] John937@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jellyfin is a fantastic platform and I really like to use it!

It's given me a second renaissance of "cutting the cable" in this streaming no-ownership era

[–] Kurt@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Yes! I finally just set up a dynamic DNS so I could get my music away from home.

[–] ericjmorey@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I wish they would have chosen to use software to maintain threading in comments and I'm not sure that really Discourse gamifies it's posts. After a quick look at the interface of myBB, I can say that I personally prefer Discourse. But I think non-accelrated-time-decaing forums are way better than Reddit for things like a project hub. I think what I liked about having many of my interests in on Reddit was the context switch for a topic often didn't require a context switch in interface to benefit from the network effect of many people participating in the topic.

But at the end of the day, knowing where to get quality assistance and casual discussion about a topic or project is all I'm after. Reddit has been a place to find what I was after, oftentimes as a signpost to find where people are gathering. And now the threadiverse is providing that function much better and sooner than I expected despite its many shortcomings.

[–] mochi@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

This would have been better if they had created a Federated platform so we could subscribe to it from here. I'm tired of using a dozen apps to do basically the same thing.

[–] d_k_bo@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm so happy that they aren't using Discourse.

[–] Ungoliantsspawn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hooo, time traveling to the 90s I see. Very vintage

[–] jonathan@lemmy.6px.eu 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah it's a pity they didn't set up their own lemmy instance, that way every other lemmy instance could get the content...

[–] hodgepodge@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They should just federate, they don't need to use Lemmy to have it viewable from Lemmy/Kbin

[–] artraveler2213@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

just setup my lemmy acct. I do have a mastodon one tho. How find masto communities here, and vice versa?

[–] Gamers_Mate@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is heaps cool. For some reason I read it as Jellyfish are moving away from reddit.

[–] nevernevermore@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

the migratory pattern of jellyfish is fascinating

nice switching back to good oll forums

[–] NSA_Server_04@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not really the direction I foresaw for this, going to be a big mess of trying to find helpful info n all.

[–] Late_Settler@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Nice. I know most here are used to how Reddit structures their content, or are on the federation bandwagon. Personally I'm just happy to see the internet get a little more decentralized.

On a related note I should set up and play around with some old school forum software. It's been a few years since I've looked at it.

[–] yabasta@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And why are they still on Twitter ?! Its not credible...

[–] Kurt@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably to broadcast announcements.

[–] yabasta@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe... If they wanted to create an announcement effect, they could have simply stuck to their website or Mastodon etc... Posting on Twitter (!!!) the fact that they're reacting so harshly to the Reddit case...for me it doesn't make sense...

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dude, they want people to know, so they go to where people is. This is not field of dreams, if you build it no one will come unless you tell them where to find it. Try to relax a little, they do have a Mastodon and even have a Matrix instance bridged to Discord. They engage on Lemmy as well. Just, breathe deeply and put the toxicity away.

[–] yabasta@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm relaxed, thank you for your advice, no toxicity here, just a reflection on using closed networks to promote free software... It doesn't change the fact that I really love Jellyfin and will never switch back to Plex or anything else...

[–] HiddenTower@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I think it's cool they are using myBB, I'm a big fan for that style of community.

[–] GustavoM@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Glad to hear! Welcome home lads.

[–] haakon@lemmy.sdfeu.org 1 points 1 year ago

They're not moving to Lemmy, if that's what you're welcoming them to.

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