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Republicans aren’t content with just forcing women to give birth, they are intent on controlling all facets of reproductive healthcare, as we’re seeing in Alabama

Friends, Romans, frozen extrauterine children, lend me your ears. Except for the extrauterine children, that is – they obviously don’t have ears. Nor do they have fully formed brains, nervous systems or organs. Nevertheless, according to Alabama’s supreme court – in a decision which has which paved the way for two wrongful death suits to proceed against a fertility clinic – frozen embryos are “children” and should be treated as such.

So what does this mean? Well, in the immediate term it means that if you’re going through fertility treatments in Alabama your life just got upended. Numerous embryos tend to be created and then frozen during the IVF process because it maximizes the chances of success, is more cost-effective and reduces the health risks of the procedure. Surplus embryos are then disposed of or donated. If every frozen embryo is suddenly deemed a child, it means that disposing of the embryo – or having a machine malfunction and accidentally ruin an embryo – would be a criminal act. It even throws into question the standard practice of freezing embryos. After all, you wouldn’t stick a child in a freezer, would you?

In short, a handful of Republican judges in Alabama have effectively made IVF too legally dangerous to practice in the state. Already at least three fertility providers in Alabama have said that they are pausing IVF because of the risks. This is unbelievably cruel to people currently going through fertility treatments that, even in the best of times, can take a major emotional, physical and financial toll.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 47 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Please note that they’re doing this with the full support of republiQan women.

republiQan women, you are failing humanity in order to - what, elect a rapist? It’s just baffling.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 6 points 7 months ago

Yeah, I hate it when people blame "men" for attacks on women's healthcare. It's just completely incorrect.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ironically, evangelicals never cared about abortion - they saw it as a Catholic issue, and they do not associate themselves with being Catholic.

However, there was this wannabe Hollywood filmmaker who made an avant-garde anti abortion film, and they didn't like it, but then the New York Times did an article on it and he started getting protests outside his screenings. He literally had empty stadiums with protests outside, then this was covered by the local news, then the evangelicals were like "Hey, this pisses off all the hardcore feminists, we should go check this out!" and they attended the following nights. And thus the anti abortion movement was born.

It's pretty ironic, really.

[–] moistclump@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Interesting. What decade was this?

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

1970s I think? The guy's name is Frank Schaeffer, and he deeply regrets it now, although his wikipedia page barely mentions it.

There's a really good podcast called Things Fell Apart that goes over it an various other culture wars. This is the episode, it's well worth a listen:

Things Fell Apart: S1. Ep 1: 1000 Dolls

Episode webpage: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0011cpq

Media file: http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/6/redir/version/2.0/mediaset/audio-nondrm-download/proto/http/vpid/p0bk0p4g.mp3

Not only women, but yes that is how they see it

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 7 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Nevertheless, according to Alabama’s supreme court – in a decision which has which paved the way for two wrongful death suits to proceed against a fertility clinic – frozen embryos are “children” and should be treated as such.

Numerous embryos tend to be created and then frozen during the IVF process because it maximizes the chances of success, is more cost-effective and reduces the health risks of the procedure.

Still, that’s little comfort when you look at the bigger picture: Republicans aren’t content with just forcing women to give birth, they are intent on controlling all facets of reproductive healthcare.

After realizing this may not have been the smartest thing to say for her hopeless presidential election campaign, she walked the comments back and said that she didn’t mean to imply she agreed with Alabama’s supreme court.

Still, I urge Hochul to spend some time looking at the devastating videos coming out of Gaza and ask herself why she thinks it’s OK to make light of a situation so traumatizing that kids as young as five have told aid workers they want to die.

Neuroscientist Gina Rippon looks in the Guardian at why scientists have long been obsessed with trying “to find a nice set of biologically programmed, sex-specific differences in the brain”.


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[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why does this person with the sign want the Russian to get out of their Sport Utility Vehicle?

[–] Vaginal_blood_fart@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago

You couldn't have had a better username for a reply.