Bought a pine phone because it's cool.
It is not daily driver worthy at all
this post was submitted on 22 Feb 2024
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Between October 2018 to April 2023 I used as my daily drivers a series of phones (OnePlus One, Meizu Pro 5, Volla Phone, Xiaomi Redmi Note 9 Pro) all flashed to running Ubuntu Touch. During this time UT (Ubuntu Touch) was less developed than it is now, in that Waydroid (which allows using some Android apps over a Lineage OS container that boots on top of UT) did not yet exist, and Libertine (which allows some Linux desktop apps built for Ubuntu arm64 deb to be installed) was not as functional. And yet is still worked great for my modest needs (e.g. I don't do banking, or any kind of more advanced gaming, on my phones).
The reason I reverted last year to de-googled Android ("vanilla" Bliss ROM on a Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro) is that being in the USA, the carriers here have closed or are closing down all their 3G/2G networks, and requiring VoLTE for phone calls. While UT supports LTE for mobile data without a problem, given that VoLTE is a proprietary closed protocol with implementation varying between carrier, oem and device, the only device which UT currently has VoLTE support for (and which is still shaky) is the PinePhone Pro.
Anyhoo - the UT dev community is pretty small, but definitely dedicated, and still offers some promise into the future for a nice privacy respecting alternative OS for mobile devices and tablets. Hopefully at some point VoLTE, and a few other issues gets figured out for it so I can return to using it for my daily driver - in the meantime I've got it on a OnePlus 5t as a secondary device, and on a Lenovo x306f 10" tablet.
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I tried to daily drive a PinePhone for a long time, then a PinePhone Pro. It is not really ready. Too many dropped/failed to answer calls and missed texts. I love having a fully capable Linux PC in my pocket and am typing this on my OnePlus 6T with postmarketOS, but as a phone it is not ideal. My setup now is that I have a OnePlus 6 with stock Android and my main SIM for doing phone stuff (calls, texts, some apps, Bluetooth handsfree) and the OnePlus 6T with pmOS for Linux experimentation and doing pocket computer things (browsing, coding, SSH, VPN, testing Waydroid). I got a second cheap SIM so I can have service on both devices, but as the 6T with pmOS can't receive calls in 4G mode it really doesn't work as a phone. The PinePhones can work as a phone but the modem dropouts make it less than ideal and their battery life and performance leave much to be desired while the OP6T has fairly good performance and battery life on pmOS.
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Mobile Linux is awesome, support it. Maybe just don't try to make money selling it as a finished product yet?
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It would be really hard to get an established manufacture to pick up Linux as an operating system. Most people get a Samsung phone if they can afford it and a Motorola if they can't in the states.
I'd be surprised if my family has done any research before picking up a phone outside of is it a Samsung.
I used a flip phone for years are you telling me linux phones can't make phone calls?
Of course the can. Source: I have one.
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Not reliable as a daily driver but very cool
For those who have used each, which did you prefer, GrapheneOS or a Linux-based phone, and why?
I have a "braveheart" pinephone (one of the first ones) and I just use it to play around with it's features, do distrohopping etc.)
Most of the time i used an arch build with phosh. But actually I highly recommend postmarketOS, the installer is straight forward and let you build whatever you want. Actually I run postmarketOS edge with encrypted f2fs and gnome-mobile on it. gnome-mobile works better on newer phones but it is still usable.
I prefer my grapheneOS phone because it is faster has more apps, apps are scaled correctly etc. Not too much battery drain...
PS. I managed to run Thunderbird usable on pinephone, I just play around with the look&feel and now I simply have just the mail cards and I am able to interact with it without too much scaling issues.
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Damn this is timely, I just got a second hand Pinephone today
I run a pinephone daily during the first 5 or 6 months of covid but once I started going out again well... really poor camera and battery
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buy an iPhone
-Jobs 4:20
Not without real Firefox and ublock origin I won't!
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