Please let's all remember that these are child actors, and they are no responsible for the poor writing or direction in the show. We can be sure they have worked extremely hard and poured their lives into this show, and the ones we should be disappointed with are the showrunners.
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If the acting is bad, we can be mad at the casting director as well. It doesn't really matter if they're child actors, that doesn't make them immune from being called bad actors. They don't deserve to get dunked on or solely blamed for the show, but let's not pretend they don't play a part in its quality. If they were amazing actors, I'd assume you'd have no issue giving them praise? Why is the opposite not true?
The problem is people tend to go way the hell overboard when it comes to criticism and some child actors can't handle it. Look at what happened with Jake Lloyd as an example. Best to just leave the children out of the criticism and make it about the adults who made the decisions.
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If they were amazing actors, I'd assume you'd have no issue giving them praise? Why is the opposite not true?
Because they're children dude. Praise does not have harmful psychological consequences. There is no downside to giving a child credit for doing something well. There is tremendous harm in attacking a child over something they did objectively correctly, but inevitably not to the impossible standards of armchair critics whose entire presence on the Internet is built on giving exaggerated and heartless criticism.
like the kid that played Anakin in Star Wars. he caught so much shit over it, that he gave up acting all together.
In 2012, Lloyd explained that his decision to retire from acting in 2001 was due to bullying at school and harassment by the press, both in response to his role in The Phantom Menace.
Damn that's sad. Haven't seen the phantom menace in a while but I thought he was pretty good.
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Complete false equivalency. Do you think positive and negative are the same thing?
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I've only watched the first 2 episodes, and yeah some of the performances come off quite bad, but I think the editing is at least partially to blame. They hold on characters too long and at odd moments completely destroying any sense of natural tempo in conversations.
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Even with each of its eight episodes clocking in at about an hour each, it would have been difficult for Netflix’s Avatar to hit all of the same beats as the lengthier cartoon.
Ah well theres your problem. I was actually rooting for this to be good but surprise surprise, Netflix is still shit.
I mean, to be fair, 8 episodes at 1 hour each is more or less the same runtime that 20 episodes of ~20 min each. The problem is not the amount of episodes, it's just bad direction.
Same runtime maybe, but not the same pace. Would you have them just switch from one story to another a third of the way through the episode?
Lots of animated shows do that, though they only usually have two stories due to shorter runtimes
That's more because they have an allotted time slot on their TV network. Like Nickelodeon gave Spongebob 22 minutes per episode but they only wanted to write 10 minute episodes, so they did 2 per episode. That's not really relevant on a streaming service where they have total control over the episode pacing. They can even do weird stuff like having different episodes in a series run for different durations.
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They got my hopes up with One Piece.
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That's a shame.
The One Piece live action blew me away. I had the lowest expectations too, so it was quite a surprise.
Really? I thought it was adequate at best.
Had you seen it before? The live action was my first real introduction and I really enjoyed it.
Just finished watching Episode 1. Don't care what the reviews say. It's a great show. Decent acting and pretty good SFX. Looking forward to Ep. 2.
Watching the latest trailer it’s very easy to see the poor acting. It’s pretty bad when you catch a 3 second glimpse of a scene and can see in those few seconds just how poorly the acting and dialogue is, ooof.
Me and my family like it. They grew up with the original and didn't know a live action was in the works until I started it up yesterday.
We also liked Netflix's Cowboy Bebop but all the neckbeards managed to cancel it fast.
Yeah I liked bebop, and one piece, and this too. The only note I would have on this is regarding iroh. It seems like the actor is playing him 100% sober, so we lose a bit of the iroh charm I think.
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Is it at least better than the first one?
Much better. This one does not make me want to go to Lake Laogai and get brainwashed.
There is no Avatar movie in Ba Sing Se
M Night Shamalan get bored or something? Wasn't his movie a big enough kick in the dick?
There is no movie in ba sing se
Is there any anime-remake that's not a disapointment?
Maybe it's an unpopular opinion, but I thought the new One Piece hit all the emotional beats of the anime even if it didn't get all the details the same. I wasn't disappointed, although I was prepared to be.
Is Avatar even really anime though? That's kinda like calling Taco Bell Mexican food.
Is that unpopular? I thought One Piece got near-universally praised, but I didn’t pay attention to the discourse beyond the first week or so it was out so I missed the pivot if there was one.
Like you, I braced for the worst and actually liked it quite a bit. I think the changes they made were fairly well done.
I would say Avatar is a solid American homage to anime, but the average tv viewer would see the art style and assume that it’s anime so most outlets are just framing it that way.
Is Avatar even really anime though?
What, why not? We are talking about master of elements Avatar, not Pandora Avatar, right?
Yes, Avatar is an American creation in the style of Japanese animation in much the same way that Taco Bell is an American fast food chain in the style of Mexican tacos, burritos, etc.
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Speed Racer and Alita: Battle Angel were good.
Sadly bad live action will devalue rare good live action shows like One Piece, because people will skip it as being another bad show, while it isn't.
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