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I don't really have a question but I want to talk about noodles, please. Is a tamale a noodle or a sandwich?

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[–] exterstellar@lemmy.world 77 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Technically, a tamale is a calzone according to the cube rule.

[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I understand the cube rule, I just don't think I can really subscribe to it. Calling a bowl of lucky charms nachos is inaccurate, it's clearly a soup.

[–] glomag@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Exactly, cube rule is inconsistent and needlessly complicated. Both are salads

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

woah, this is why i have reached out to The Internet.

[–] MrsEaves@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Didn’t know I could be more upset about this argument but this rule really takes the ~~cake~~ sandwich. Though for this specific instance, I agree it’s a calzone.

[–] CynAq@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

I love how "toast" includes sushi as an example but sushi doesn't

[–] gmatkins@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Tamales are open on one side when they're steamed. That makes them quiche by this rule.

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does this mean I can get thin crust tamales in New York, and grease death tamales in Chicago

[–] ohmyiv@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

In L.A., there's everything from grease death and masa bombs to thin crust and dry. Husk wrapped or banana leaf wrapped. Savory or sweet. We got it all.

[–] SoupOfTheDay@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Isn’t the whole point of “toast” that it’s bread that is toasted? How can sushi, an undeniable raw food be “toast”? I’ll accept the cube rule, but toast needs a new classification.,

[–] blivet@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The rice isn’t raw, just cold.

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[–] quaddo@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Oh this is fantastic! Thanks for this.

Also, first kbin/post-Reddit post. Woo.

[–] Saturdaycat@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

What the...

[–] metostopholes@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd say a tamale is a dumpling.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

nixtamalized corn dumpling: this is proper and you are righteous

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[–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

closer to a pie, as pies as have filling.

noodles don't have filling

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

what is ravioli? And, is ravioli a dumpling?

[–] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I would say ravioli is not a noodles, and could be called a dumpling, yes.

[–] macarthur_park@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

David Chang argues that ravioli are dumplings on Ugly Delicious.

I’m inclined to agree in that dumplings and ravioli are the same general idea implemented by different culinary traditions.

[–] sab@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Italians would lynch you for mixing linguini and spaghetti, but they don't pause for a second when referring to dumplings as Chinese ravioli.

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[–] ViperB5@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Technically, ravioli is a stuffed pasta the same as tortellini. That would make it a noodle but I don't believe the same can be said for tamales. Pasta (Italian noodles) is made from a dough of semolina flour, olive oil, and eggs that is rolled into sheets or extruded into shapes. It is then cooked by boiling in water.

I don't think the dough(?) of a tamale is anywhere near the same.

[–] boothin@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

What the dough is made out of isn't relevant to it being a noodle or not though, unless you think rice noodles aren't noodles because they aren't made of semolina, eggs, and oil and aren't typically cooked by boiling but rather by soaking in hot water?

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[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A tamale is most definitely corn bread

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

stuffed corn bread? but let's also make the masa distinction

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Depends on the country of origin

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am in United State, Southwestern Region

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only place that might call themselves a United State is Texas.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay Texas. Don't go trying to annex another Mexico again. We don't need a New Alamo.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

we should just take over west texas. I mean, HEB is pretty good and you have a lot more meth than we do.

[–] WisteriaCat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Neither! A tamale is corn masa with typically a meat filling. You could consider it a dumpling or a pie. Noodles do not have a stuffing and sandwiches tend to have a distinct layers. I would consider a taco or maybe a gordita a sandwich, but not a tamale. Although this does make me wonder, what would a burrito be classified as? (not counting wrap because that is too easy)

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

A burrito is um... a form of a tamale. Actually, it's sushi

[–] quortez@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This type of food taxonomy is always fascinating and disturbing, as it tends to spawn even more unhinged classifications (ravioli is a dumpling. A bowl of cereal is a salad).

That being said, the most politically neutral take would be that tamales are a pie.

[–] SoupOfTheDay@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Are you saying ravioli is not a dumpling?

I am joining you in the tamales are a pie camp though.

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[–] BaldManGoomba@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] rynzcycle@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"Sometimes a tamale is just a tamale" - Sigmund Freud Probably

[–] SoupOfTheDay@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

And sometimes you just really want to fuck good tamale… I mean mother.. I mean calzone!

[–] jclinares@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As a Mexican, I am very disturbed by this question. It's not stupid (that doesn't exist in this community), it's just disturbing xD

No, a tamale is not a noodle. Noodles don't have fillings, are longer, and thinner. It's like asking if ravioli is a noodle.

[–] 1024_Kibibytes@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As someone from the U.S. who grew up eating Mexican food in Texas, I agree. It is disturbing. The filling is very important to a tamal. They aren't bendy or thin either. Noodles are thin and bendy

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

i am new mexico af and i respect your carne guisada, but really. NM food kills it. Please come over to Santa Fe and check out green chile Carne Adovada. "Texas" lol

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[–] 4am@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

A tamale is a pop tart, obviously

[–] jerrimu@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I mean kinda? We need to decide how a noodle and a dumpling differ.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I created a new video: What is a Noodle? Disclaimer: I didn't.

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