What rediculous framing. He used freely available software, failed to attribute properly, and offered a very public apology. He did technically violate the lisence agreement by failing to attribute, but this is a common mistake and doesn't appear to be done willfully. By fixing attribution he brings the project back into compliance. If moral issues come into play, lemmy has far more red on their ledger.
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“Lemmy had far more red on their ledger.”
I’ve seen this crop up and come across the term ‘tankies’. Is this referring to all of Lemmy or only certain instances.
The fediverse seems great, but also a bit like the Wildwest.
So, from what I've heard, the 2 Main Developers of Lemmy and about 90% of the initial userbase were tankies, to the point where the project wasn't appealing to anyone other than them. That's why the Developers opened lemmygrad, where most of the tankies are now. That instance is also one of the most blocked instances on the fediverse
Many thanks for the explanation.
Could my phrasing have been more nuanced? Sure. I'm not really giving an opinion on it at all. It is what it is.
Seems like they're being reasonable about it and doing heir best to make it right. People steal code all the time especially for personak projects, and the fact that this personal project blew up out of nowhere is not something I'd expect someone to account for well.
I think it's always important to give credit where it is due, but was any of the code proprietary or guarded in any way? Was the mistake in failing to give credit, or was it using code that they weren't authorized to use?
Complicated to say since I'm no expert. Technically, they weren't authorized to use it because they did not include attribution.
I think that's a gross mischaracterization. Are you a developer or have any experience with open source projects?
Borrowing, modifying and extending other people's code is fundamental to modern software development and completely commonplace. He just moved too fast and forgot to provide proper credit, which this post clearly explains.
Eeeeehhhhh… I actually could see how this would happen. He’s not being a dick and he fixed it. Unless there’s more to the story… 🤷♂️
My issue with kbin is php. 😂
php
Not a programmer, but is php bad?
In the past, I had read that logins in websites were handled using php and mysql. Is some new/better language popular nowadays?
Edit: Thank you for the responses.
Since you asked, I'll give you a nuanced answer.
PHP is not, in itself, inherently bad. The newer versions are performant and if you are a good programmer, you can produce completely fine stuff with it.
The problem is that it's flexibility leads to sloppy programming, which leads to projects that turn into a cluster. A good example is WordPress. I'd argue WordPress itself is well written. Once you add a dozen or so badly written plugins though it becomes a mess.
A lot of the criticism is the same that JavaScript gets. It's a loosely typed language. So "1" is different than 1. The first is a string and the second is an integer. So if you add 1+1 you could end up with 11 instead of 2.
Again, this isn't a problem if you're a disciplined dev, but we're not a breed known for our discipline ;)
When I tried Kbin it was slow, which I attributed to badly written PHP code. However, I didn't do the research to confirm this was the case.
If you tried it a few days ago during the reddit blackouts, it was getting overwhelmed with traffic. The sole owner/operator has largely improved things in short order though. It was much better today.
PHP isn't bad. Programmers tend to "hate" on languages for some specific reasons or to make themselves feel better over their choice of language. Some of the biggest projects that are running to this day are or were made in PHP. WordPress, for example.
To me, the right tool is the one that accomplishes the job. I even still write VB.NET programs, even though I CAN use other languages just fine. Why do I do that? Because it's my choice.
Edit: Before anyone tells me something about "slowness" of programs in PHP or whatnot... How many programs do YOU use that are made with Electron, for example?
My understanding is that newer web norms try to decouple the backend and the UI while PHP is more interconnected which can be a bit messy. Some people also just don't like syntax.
That said, my understanding is that PHP performance and usability has gotten much better with time.
All of this is true. :)
Perfectly handled IMHO, very open and honest. Transparency is important!
I can definitely see how that could happen.
He apologised and fixed it. This is actual a very moral thing to acknowledge fault and resolve that.
Honest and open, sounds like a good guy. I can totally see such mistakes happen. He handled it perfectly.
In case anyone has moral issues with migrating to Lemmy vs Kbin, check this out. So yea, turns out the dude stole a lot of code from other projects and people.
Wow, very condemning... He apologized and said he was gonna make it right, so where's the problem? Also, comparing apples and eggs here. "Stealing" code VS. human rights issues / tankies...
Not even comparable but I still think that either platform is fine (not talking about the instances per se).
What matters is how we use the platform. Unless they’re doing something too outrageously repugnant to ignore, I don’t really care what the folks behind Lemmy/Kbin get up to. My biggest concern is the quality of the community.
Why post this NSFW pic with a completely unrelated topic.
Ernest, the kbin dev, addressed the issue and it was resolved.
I don’t see a NSFW picture… I linked the source post, that’s all. Probably a Lemmy bug lmao.
@dope are you lost? What does your cum splattered selfy have to do with news? I'm guessing you linked the wrong picture?
I don't see a NSFW picture... I linked the source post, that's all. Probably a Lemmy bug lmao.
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