The question of jurisdiction was more complicated than where the crime had been committed.
So... The US did it.
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wait why are we blowing up fkn pipelines now exactly?
The war hawks answer would be so that we can economically separate russia-germany so that germany is more willing to go against russia. If Germany is dependent on gas from Russia they are less willing to risk their relationship.
Ukraine actually did it, but there's no chance they'd do that without the US giving the go-ahead.
No, it was definitely straight up the US. Ignore any bullshit about yachts and Ukrainian divers.
Here is the USS Kearsage - one of the only ships in the world with a moon pool that would allow divers to operate at the pipeline's depth - leaving after "NATO exercises" in the area of the pipeline five days before it exploded
Here is a USN Boeing P-8A Anti-Submarine plane - one of the only planes in the world that can generate a radio pulse capable of reaching to the depth of the pipeline - flying along the length of the pipeline almost exactly 24 hours before it exploded
Here is President of the United States Joseph Robinette Biden, stating that the Nord Stream 2 project - which competes with US LNG sales to Europe - will not be allowed to continue; just out of frame is Chancellor of Germany Olaf Scholz, who offers no form of contradiction or rebuttal
I mean, that US basically owns germany since WW2... has a basis with privileges like an embassy for near east espionage in g... has intelligence programs where g would like to be a closer partner...
Not disputing you but very interested in reading more and sources - I always was very skeptical the volunteer Ukrainian saboteurs angle
The author of this article has a very strong track-record, so I choose to trust it. Though it does rely on anonymous sources. https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream
Thanks for linking, but while there’s smoke and circumstance, it’s not a fire imo. Anonymous source, not sources.
And Hersh seems to have fallen from the tightrope of critical analysis and skepticism, into acceptance of conspiratorial narratives from shaky actors.
His reporting has always relied on anonymous sources, and has always panned out in the long run. Nothing's changed, we're just not far enough removed from the war in Syria for the propaganda to lose control of the narrative in the west.
In seeking to decouple from state propaganda, it is important to critically examine alternative sources, lest you be duped into becoming a state mouthpiece.
From what I have heard it is actually really hard to do, and only a few countries have the capabilities and equipment.
lol no. You've made the classic blunder of believing a propaganda narrative.
The propaganda says the Russians did it (which is ridiculous, it's their own pipeline, and they could just shut it down on their end if they wanted to). Either way, there's no way the US didn't at least consent to it, and yeah, most likely was more directly involved in it.
If Sweden had found Russia at fault, you'd think they would be shouting it from the rooftops.
Yeah let’s not reflect or even think about the fact that Germanys economy has possibly been torpedoed with the go-ahead from, or directly by, its biggest ally.
“It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal.”
― Henry Kissinger
Seymour Hersh stays winning.
Euro politicians are such cucks.
For those OOTL:
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I knew it! Aliens!
Sweden Closes Investigation of Pipeline Blasts, but Stays Silent on Cause
Because it's Cthulhu that did it.
Which in turn was unleashed by BP. (They're sorry, tho)
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Read theory!
Man I almost want to go back to reddit and smack every stupid user who exclaimed it was Russia the moment it happened with insane levels of an alibi.
"uM AKshUlLy, THeY blEw iT uP So tHeRd be OnLy oNe PiPElInE fOr eURoPe"
Why is is so hard to believe that the US blew up the pipeline? They have the capability, the motivation, and they will face absolutely no consequences from doing it. Like how is this even a question?
They are silent because it was Ukraine acting on behalf of the US