this post was submitted on 06 Feb 2024
21 points (86.2% liked)

News

23305 readers
5390 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 2 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Okay folks do you know the difference between correlation and causation? I can't imagine that mortgage rates are the primary driver of housing costs. It seems like a lack of supply, the growth of private equity in the housing market, and the mismatch of utilization where empty nesters are staying in their houses for longer than they need.

[–] undercrust@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Unfortunately this is a pretty good example of misunderstanding major vs secondary market forces. Key word major, since the rest of your points are correct, just not as correct, with the exception of your point on limited supply, which is also a major driver.

When you have super-low interest rates, you can pay a higher sticker price on the house per equivalent dollar of mortgage payment. Therefore the price of the house can rise to the point of people bearing the mortgage payment. This affects everyone, and creates bidding wars because the sticker price of the home doesn't actually matter; the cashflow effect absolutely does.

In the case of PE entering the market, that's a secondary effect of low interest rates. PE operates pretty exclusively on leverage, so without super low rates they wouldn't be entering the market because it wouldn't be as profitable.

You might also say that boomers' homes being underutilized is actually a secondary effect of the major driver of limited supply. If boomers have to consider the option of moving into a smaller place like a condo (which may be less price-stable compared to a detached home due to condos being more commodified), or an assisted living / seniors community (which likely has a higher cashflow impact than keeping their paid-off home), then why bother making any change at all?

TL;DR - the government needs to get back in the housing development game; we need to maintain a higher interest rate environment (as distasteful as that might sound to some); and what we really need is immediate blanket rezoning for aggressive densification (like Calgary city council is currently attempting).

Also fun fact: the Conservatives support none of those things, so, y'know, consider that when voting in a few short years.