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[–] 0xDEADBEEF@lemmy.world 47 points 9 months ago (4 children)
[–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 22 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The Voyager app is essentially Apollo. It’s missing some things, but it’s close.

[–] Willy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

avelon is a good Apollo like app as well

[–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago

Thanks, I’ll check it out!

[–] 0xDEADBEEF@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Voyager is very good too but it's missing that "swipe forward" gesture, didn't realize how much I used it til it was gone:(

[–] moistclump@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago
[–] TxzK@lemmy.zip 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I'd have said I miss Infinity, but I am using a fork of it called Eternity to browse lemmy. I miss Reddit tho :(

[–] Blxter@lemmy.zip 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I only miss the small community things and communitys for specific things such as single tv shows etc.

[–] TxzK@lemmy.zip 6 points 9 months ago

yeah. I miss niche meme and circlejerk communities. Specially miss r/programmingcirclejerk and r/linguisticshumor. There's equivalent communities in lemmy but nowhere near active as Reddit unfortunately.

[–] Darken@reddthat.com 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I miss downvote button that's missing from a trillion communities here

[–] shootwhatsmyname@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Downvotes are disabled per-instance, so the instance you’re on probably has downvotes disabled

[–] Darken@reddthat.com 1 points 9 months ago

Damn I guess I don't want reddthat anymore

[–] TheVillageGuy@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 9 months ago

I miss Fenix

[–] 20inmyhead@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

I’ve sideloaded it, but my guess is after the IPO they’ll cut off the public API support. They clearly don’t want 3rd party apps.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 40 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I just don't browse reddit on mobile anymore because, aside from the official app being a fucking dumpster fire, I won't use it on principal.

RiF used to be my jam, these days I just use Connect to browse Lemmy if I want a similar mobile experience.

[–] Yearly1845@reddthat.com 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I actually really like the mobile website now, but I deleted my account and I don't go there unless I absolutely must.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'll still browse old.reddit.com on a computer partly just because of r/sysadmin but yeah, Lemmy is my preferred platform these days (maybe throw in a dash of Kbin)

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 38 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Meh. I've already moved on.

[–] kevincox@lemmy.ml 14 points 9 months ago

...to Lemmy.

[–] Xavier@lemmy.ca 38 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The essential part at the end:

“ When reached for comment, Reddit spokesperson Tim Rathschmidt directed me to Reddit's API FAQ page and said the company couldn't comment further because it's in a quiet period and doesn't "comment on confidential business conversations and/or agreements." ”

We can infer that it was not the fountain of money they thought it would become. Hence, all the special exception for leftover third-party apps to not abandon a leaking ship.

More telling is their silence. Who doesn't want to promote and advertise how profitable they are to potential shareholders just before an IPO.

[–] dgmib@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Reddit never expected the new api pricing to be a fountain or money. This was never about LLMs or the lack of ad revenue.

If it was just about LLMs they could have made one price for api users that were primarily harvesting data and a different price for api users that contributed significant content or moderation. Which would make good business sense to do so as content contributors are what bring the eyeballs (and therefore the value) to the platform.

It wasn’t about ad revenue either, by all estimates the revenue from a third-party app user would have been many times more than the opportunity cost from the ad revenue they were missing out on from 3rd party app users. If they wanted to profit from the api pricing, they only needed to give the community more time to transition business models. They didn’t even need to give everyone more time, just a dozen or so major third party apps.

This was always about killing off the third party apps. The ones they let survive had low user counts to begin with and went even lower.

I don’t know their real motivations here but so far there’s only two possibilities that i can think of.

A) Reddit’s leadership and board of directors are beyond incompetent

B) They collect significantly more data from the first party app than they were able to from the third party apps, and they’re selling that data for a significant sum of money beyond just their own ad ecosystem.

[–] DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

B) They collect significantly more data from the first party app than they were able to from the third party apps, and they’re selling that data for a significant sum of money beyond just their own ad ecosystem.

My money is on this being the reason...the official reddit app is ridiculously invasive.

[–] breden@reddthat.com 2 points 9 months ago

Which rolls back to the original comment. If their first party app is indeed that profitable where's the marketing and promotion towards potential buyers?

[–] r_ffer23@sh.itjust.works 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I didn't even notice it happened so many months ago. I already got used to Lemmy. Less niche content but it's slowly growing.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Same tbh. I'll miss my hyperspecific and fandom based subreddits but I have Tumblr for that

[–] Floon@lemmy.ml 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Reading this on Boost for Lemmy, which I'm glad exists, since Boost was my Reddit app of choice.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 months ago

Same here, but with sync. Allows me to keep my doom scrolling addiction going.

[–] UpperBroccoli@feddit.de 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Oh... is Reddit still around?

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 6 points 9 months ago

It's gotten really crappy

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 months ago

No, as far as I’m concerned. It’s dead and buried, and I don’t care how the corpse decomposes from now on.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Last year, Reddit sparked massive controversy when it dramatically changed the prices and rules associated with accessing its API.

The changes were so drastic and polarizing that they led to an epic protest from Reddit users and moderators that saw thousands of subreddits going private and engaging in other forms of inconvenience for weeks.

"Unfortunately, due to Reddit now charging for access to their API, Narwhal has been forced to add a subscription in order to use the app.

I asked again for this story, and Harrison said he couldn't provide full details but noted, "Reddit was willing to work with me so that I could transition the app to subscriptions in a reasonable timeframe, especially considering it's not my full-time job."

Keeping both apps open means people who bought Infinity for Reddit+ before July 1 are able to easily continue using it (after paying a subscription fee), Ning explained.

(Infinity for Reddit is still listed as a free install on Google's Play Store, but users are required to buy a subscription in the app.)


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[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 9 months ago

I usually use Stealth but it's been 404ing for the last week or so 😢