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So everyone says to use a vpn but is it really needed i havent really pirated before so im not too sure, and i migh tnot but who knows. Are there free alternatives to vpns that are safe what are some options or choices we have? becasue most vpns dont allow torrenting or are pricey and the free ones are just bad. so what can we do?

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[–] buckykat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Everyone should be on a VPN all the time

[–] d3ceived@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It's mostly torrents that are dangerous without a VPN, since as a torrent user you're also redistributing the content in question, and the peer-to-peer nature of them makes you very visible to copyright trolls.

Direct download is generally much safer. Specifics vary by jurisdiction, but in many countries merely downloading (or streaming) a pirated copy of a game or film is not a criminal offense, and is not in practice vulnerable to a civil lawsuit either.

Avoid torrents, know good direct download sites (these will vary by what content you're interested in, look around using various search engines to get around DMCA delistings), use rudimentary privacy protections like private DNS and HTTPS-only mode in your browser, and you'll get far without a VPN.

Tor is also a powerful, free option, but it's generally overkill for non-torrent piracy and very hard to configure for torrents.

[–] FermatsLastAccount@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Debrid services are a way to pirate without needing a VPN, however they are not free. I pay like $3 per month.

If you want to pirate for free without paying for a VPN, you need to use closed trackers.

[–] ThatGuy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I would just use mullvad vpn. If you wanna save, you can just buy one month and download everything you want before it ends.

Though I use mullvad for alot of stuff so I never found the price to be expensive.

Your only other reasonable option is to simply not torrent.

[–] HumanPerson@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I2p is an option that is completely free, though it is somewhat limited. It is similar to tor but supports torrenting over the actual i2p network but it doesn't support clear web torrents and is quite slow.

[–] gnarkotics@mastodon.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@QuietStorm
If you dont have a vpn you could use tor, but is easily detected by an isp and you must use care not to leak any info via dns

Many vpn providers offer free tiers, id check out #protonvpn or #MullvadVPN.
Sometimes the free tiers can get bogged down with heavy traffic but it's better than raw dogging the sketchy side of the net

[–] Daftling@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

DDL sites and SoulSeek have kept me with up to date with every movie, tv show, and video game all without the use of a VPN. A VPN and torrenting are obviously the easiest choice, but you can get by just fine without it.

[–] Akasiek@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

VPNs don't make things safer. You need to use reliable trackers like 1337x. VPNs can hide your traffic from your ISP. If you're living in some smaller country you might get await with seeding without VPN and without getting notified by your ISP.

[–] DRx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nothing is ever free. You pay somewhere.

Mullvad the best VPN around (IMHO) is 5euro (5.40 usd)/Month ... Not very expensive (one again IMHO)

PIA is what, $40/yr, or something like that

I wouldn't risk it without a VPN. I guess you could use TOR or i2p, but I don't use enough of either to make a valid comment on its use.

[–] QuietStorm@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

well dang, do you know if there are such a things as one time payment vpn's or is that not a thing?

[–] ollie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

you don't pay for lifetime packages for services that cost the provider money on a month to month basis like a VPN, any service that does this is a huge red flag.

the service will probably go bankrupt before you get your money's worth out of it

[–] PropaGandalf@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nope, there isn't anything like a lifetime VPN and if you find one it's probably a scam just like "free" ones where you are obviously the product. Mullvad is also not very expensive (5$/month) and extremely secure (no email or any identifiers, payment with Monero, sign up over Tor, wireguard tunnels). VPNs are services that generate costs from your usage unlike software that you develop once and then sell to make up the costs. Also keep in mind that VPNs only protect your IP from the other services you are accessing on the clearnet: they aren't a one size fits it all solution. Consider other OPSEC measures depending on your threat level.

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