You think they will use an air tight chamber or be idiots like Alabama and use a mask?
this post was submitted on 30 Jan 2024
59 points (95.4% liked)
News
23329 readers
4088 users here now
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Since suffering is the whole point of the death penalty, I'm betting mask.
Or they just straight up use CO2 instead.
I honestly can't understand what is going on over there. Killing people with nitrogen is without question one of the best ways to kill a person. A grow box and a large N² tank are enough. How hard can that be?
I mean, people died by accident in nitrogen atmospheres while happily eating lunch.
There's a big difference between asphyxiating with nitrogen by accident and knowingly knowing you're being asphyxiated. Accidental asphyxiation is only peaceful because people don't know it's happening.
The point is, that you don't notice it. Your body lacks fast oxygen sensors, as long as you can breathe off CO2, you won't feel anything, maybe a bit tingly.
That's not to say it's "nice", an execution is inevitably extremely stressful, but that's kind of inevitable if you want the whole "witness" charade.
A pulmonologist in another thread said that was based on bad science. That the body can't hit hypoxia fast enough to not trigger the suffocation response, because they are holding their breathe up to that point. That's kind of a big deal if true.
Even if that's true, how long can you hold your breath? Under stress. 2min? Then you'll breathe again, get rid of CO2 and you're done.
Again, I'm not advocating for death penalty, but if you're determined to kill someone, nitrogen is definitely one of the best ways.
What they were saying is, is that's not enough time for the nitrogen to displace the co2 in their lungs for the peaceful part to happen. It's not hypoxia that they die from its the suffocation.
CO2 isn't "replaced", it's getting breathed away like in a normal atmosphere. The atmosphere is 70% nitrogen, it's not like it's a toxic gas.
The fact that you don't understand displacement of lung (and bloodstream) gas content tells me you don't have enough of a medical background to understand wtf you are talking about.
The fact that you're repeating the same words again and again tells me, you just read something you don't quite understand and act like an expert now.
I'm not the one with the burden of proof to prove that it is painless.
Read about the fact that the scientific community can not study the death penalty from within most death penalty states to actually provide anything more than individual testimonials. The scientific community does not support the conclusion that hypoxia is in any way painless. https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/
I don’t know why we have to specify, "Experimental."
The state shouldn’t be allowed to decide who dies. Ever.
Thought the thumbnail was a linux/it meme for a moment (I'm german and use arch btw)
Then why aren't you on iusearchlinux.fyi?
Edit: Fixed the link
You mean i-use-arch.fyi ? I may or may not use the same username everywhere...
There's so many quick painless ways to go, how come the stake only wants to ok the ones with a good chance at failing or being torturously painful?
The use of nitrogen is nothing more than biological suffocation whilst the person is awake. They will know only that horrible inability to breathe whilst at the same time resorting to panic and anxiety breathing. If you wanted to do execution badly, this is it. (Yes, I understand the mechanisms from gaseous exchange through to the pons medulla reflex)