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Do I need a separate HA Cloud subscription for the cabin? (lemmy.world)
submitted 11 months ago by ikidd@lemmy.world to c/homeassistant@lemmy.world
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We have our house and a cabin. While I guess I could make an area for the cabin, it has it's own areas that I'd like to manage separately (and copy automations directly).

I have purchased a HA Cloud sub but I don't seem to be able to get the cabin to connect to Cloud.

Do I need a separate sub for the cabin at full price? This seems a little over the top, not to mention clunky to manage with different Nabu Casa logins.

Or am I just going about this wrong? If anyone else manages two properties and integrates it nicely, I'd love to hear your solutions. I'm mainly subbing to Cloud because of the better TTS and STT response. Maybe I just invest in a skookum whisper/piper box instead?

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[–] CondorWonder@lemmy.ca 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes. There’s no support (hopefully just yet) for multiple Home Assistant instances with the same account.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Which makes sense.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No it doesn't?

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 3 points 11 months ago

Yes it does. Each instance requires its own connection, which costs money since they use AWS.

[–] besmtt@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Could you make a VPN between the two sites and put them in the same network? Then maybe you could separate them in the UI into different views?

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Ive always had a VPN going, but it just makes more sense to keep the control local.

[–] rambos@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What do you get with subscription? I wasnt aware there is one

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

If you're using Voice Assistant, the recog and TTS are much faster and more fluent than what I've seen on my own system. I am running it as a VM on an old server, so hardware will matter, of course. Also, you can get remote access with Home Assistant Companion proxying your HA interface very seamlessly. There might be others, but this is what stands out to me.

[–] solidgrue@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

You might be able to do something with local Zigbee2mqtt or Zwave2mqtt proxies at the cabin, and tie those areas back into the main instance over Wirguard or Zerotier, but you'd need a pretty reliable internet service at the cabin to do so.

I don't use those proxies myself since ai just use the one local hub, bit it should be possible. Maybe someone with more experience with those proxies could chime in?