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They get shit on a lot here. Why? What do they do and how is that different from other companies that offer similar services?

What I know of them: they offer DDS brute force/spam protection for websites.

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[–] casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Despite being a paying customer, my biggest gripe with them is their lack of concern for freedom of speech. They decided they can "de-platform" sites that they are not aligned with, which is shitty when A) they've basically cornered the SMB CDN/DDoS-protection space B) they are fine with these sites in their customer base until a pressure campaign they don't feel like battling surfaces.

This is referring to the KiwiFarms vs Keffles situation, where Keffles made false claims to Cloudflare about KiwiFarms endorsing/promoting suicide in an attempt to prevent her leaked discord convos from spreading. Cloudflare caved without question and suspended KiwiFarms' account without warning.

Otherwise, I have personally never had an issue with Cloudflare. But I am still going to look for alternatives because I don't think it's cool for companies with that kind of responsibility to bend a knee to bad actors out of fucking convenience.

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[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 7 months ago (16 children)

They actively protect Nazis and other hate groups.

[–] Gallardo994@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Could be a coincidence but I see the word "nazi" mentioned most by blahaj.zone accounts. Is everything okay?

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[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Let me tell my personal grievance with Cloudfare. One of the services that Cloudfare dispenses to websites, whether they like it or not, is bandwidth throttling, in the name of safety, of course. If an IP has been flagged by their system to have created spam, sent spam, being part of a DDOS attack and other various offenses, afterwards the Cloudfare service will throttle that IP requests to the sites that use Cloudfare. That's on paper what it should do, and it sounds reasonable on a surface level. However, this includes wide swaths of residential dynamic IPs, which means that a lot of people get slow internet for the actions committed by a person with whom they have no relation with whatsoever.

Furthermore, Cloudfare has decided to mass impose this status to the entire regional IP block for my country. So, my entire country is deemed as a threat, and doomed to slow AF speeds almost everywhere on the internet. Unless, of course, you own a datacenter and specifically pay Cloudfare to reclassify your static IP addresses to be trusted. This means that in order to use 100% of the bandwidth I pay for to my ISP, use of a VPN is mandatory. Else Cloudfare determines that I don't deserve anything but dial-up speeds.

Fuck Cloudfare.

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