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Hopefully, I'm not breaking any rules by posting this here!

I thought that instead of every community being on the main lemmy.ml instance I'd host a different (dedicated) instance for refugee rustaceans to get a hang of the fediverse.

It's listed on join-lemmy/instances and the link is lemmyrs.org, everyone is welcome!

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[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whoa thanks! I subbed to your two communities over there.

I like the idea of having topic-based instances, because then you can have a collection of communities dedicated to it. IE https://lemmyrs.org/c/{memes, news, support}, etc.

[–] admin@lemmyrs.org 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Greetings! The legend himself!

I made the suggested communities over at lemmyrs.org. The next few weeks are going to be very interesting!

[–] jayknight@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would suggest something like help for folks to ask for help.

[–] admin@lemmyrs.org 3 points 1 year ago

I've added https://lemmyrs.org/c/support for largely the same reason :)

[–] beto@lemmy.studio 1 points 1 year ago

I just did the same at lemmy.studio, it's a wonderful idea!

[–] blob42@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

How can I subscribe to the communities over your server ? I am on mobile and can't how to do it. Tried the mobile web ui and jerboa on Android

Edit: just found out after clicking on your profile I could see all the communities. But suppose I wanted to subscribe to the communities over there from my account on an other instance how can I do it ?

[–] admin@lemmyrs.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I myself have been figuring things out, but ideally you should be able to just go to Communites -> Search and it should show all the relevant named communities from other instances (as long as the instances are listed in federation, which lemmyrs.org is fwiw).

Admittedly that functionality is a little flaky in my limited experience.

[–] kuna@szmer.info 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I can't figure out how to sub from szmer.info, I tried typing the whole URL to https://lemmyrs.org/c/rustlang in the search bar, and nothing is found.

[–] admin@lemmyrs.org 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Okay, so it is definitely a little wonky but I was able to search for lemmyrs.org/c/rustlang from another instance.

I first had to paste the full url https://lemmyrs.org/c/rustlang in the search bar then click search a few times for it to actually show up.

I understand it's very annoying that it is this way but I'm hopeful that the experience will smooth out over time.

[–] kuna@szmer.info 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks, but when I tried spamming "search" it doesn't seem to work, while spamming "next" eventually hangs the whole thing. Could be a problem on my side, my instance is running Lemmy 0.16.7.

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Oof. Once the performance problems are sorted out, improving this really should be next on the developers' agenda.

[–] admin@lemmyrs.org 2 points 1 year ago

Hmm, I’ll try to debug that tomorrow. It has been a bit flaky in my experience as well. Some folks have had success subscribing from other instances fwiw but its been admittedly inconsistent.

[–] Mjb@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Subscribed, great idea. Keep the transparency on the costs and I think you'll find assistance with them fairly easily.

[–] teri@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cool! I just don't get yet how I can subscribe to federated channels. Sometimes I find them in the search, sometimes not. This one does not show up. I tried searching for !rustlang@lemmyrs.org - no result. Any ideas?

[–] admin@lemmyrs.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I know folks are struggling to find the communities on other instances. I posted https://lemmyrs.org/comment/3900 if it helps. Basically you start your search with the full URL, wait a second and then switch back to text search and it pops up magically.

The UX certainly needs some polish, but we'll get there :)

[–] teri@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Ok, funny. Worked this way. Thanks!

[–] RunAwayFrog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This should be de-stickied. The instance appears to be receiving zero maintenance (still on 0.17.4, enough said).

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It appears that @admin@lemmyrs.org has been busy at his job recently and hasn't had much spare time. He also ran into some issues upgrading to 0.18.1.

I don't this it's necessary to desticky this just yet, as it is of paramount importance to get smaller instances up and running at this stage. These comments and the posts on the server itself explain the situation well enough. If he's still on 0.17.4 in a few weeks then I would probably agree with you, and I appreciate you bring it to people's attention.

[–] RunAwayFrog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Still on 0.17.4 btw.

[–] e8d79@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't see a reason to migrate to another community. What guarantee is there that you don't loose interest in hosting lemmy next week? The lemmy.ml instance is far older and I don't think it will disappear any time soon, also the mod of this community is one of the lemmy maintainers (which is incidentally also written in rust).

[–] admin@lemmyrs.org 5 points 1 year ago

I mostly agree with you and the fact is yes there are no guarantees. But that's kind of the point, I don't believe that lemmy.ml would be around forever either, will lemmyrs be? I don't know! I see it as an opportunity to further decentralize and diversify the existing ecosystem. FWIW, the maintainers themselves encourage hosting other instances :)

[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could you make a lemmyrs.org/c/rust channel?

[–] admin@lemmyrs.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If by channel you mean a community (I don't really know the difference), I've made one at /c/rustlang

[–] blob42@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So how would it work, if I'm already subscribed to this commynity I would also join the other one and follow the two ?

[–] admin@lemmyrs.org 3 points 1 year ago

As long as you're already here then yeah you can just subscribe to https://lemmyrs.org/c/rustlang. lemmyrs.org serves as an instance for those who haven't yet joined the fediverse to help keep the load off of the main beehaw/lemmy.ml instances.

If there's enough traction in the rustlang community then lemmyrs.org can serve both as the instance to join fediverse as well the main rust community on fediverse. I think its too early to tell.

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

This seems like unnecessary fragmentation. Reddit became huge because it gave people interested in a topic a one-stop place to discuss their topic. Putting the interested people together gave a network effect that attracted even more participants.

Creating new discussion venues (subreddits, usenet groups) is generally only worthwhile if an existing venue gets too crowded or cluttered to discuss a niche topic, or the niche topic becomes big enough that the existing venue is happier if the niche splits off. Example: there is a general programming forum, Rust gets invented and people talk about it there, then Rust becomes a big enough topic that a Rust forum is warranted.

I'm a not-even-newbie to Rust but I'd be happier if the lemmy.ml and lemmyrs.org Rust forums somehow got merged. Because of federation, I'm basically indifferent to which Lemmy instance actually hosts it.

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