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[–] ozoned@beehaw.org 21 points 1 year ago

Yeah this seems more like pivoting away from maintaining their own version and allowing upstream to do it via flatpaks. Not really surprising and as long as they're not laying off the devs, hopefully they're pivoting them to contribute more directly to other projects.

[–] glorp@infosec.exchange 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Kajika I don't see it as a huge deal, Redhat and fedora seem to be moving in a direction that favors flatpaks for GUI apps anyways, and they work pretty well nowadays. If the reduced packaging effort frees up resources to do more work on the core OS or Gnome shell, I'm all for it.

[–] Kajika@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah me neither, I posted a comment to tell that I am just sharing the news.

I am not touching flatpaks or snaps or appimage or anything like those either. But I am wondering how the community here would think of it. In hacker news they talk a lot about 'enterprise' support and all. I guess they are more biases toward those kinds of things. I guess there's a difference between how users/business interact with software and developers.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Flatpaks are actually pretty OK. There's a security layer that can tweaked with FlatSeal and you can control every single resource a flatpak binary has access to.

[–] borari@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel like I remember there being a lot of pushback against flatpak even as recently as a few years ago. Wasn’t there a strong preference for programs to be in mainline repos or something like the Arch AUR?

I know the AUR is being depreciated soon. Was there a major shift in receptiveness to flatpaks or something? From a security point of view I feel like the baked in sandboxing of flatpak binaries is probably a strong selling point.

[–] Vorthas@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Wait, AUR is being deprecated? You got a source for that? That's like the one major selling point of using Arch or Arch-based distros (EndeavourOS, etc.) for me. I personally prefer to install my programs natively and not use snaps, flatpaks, etc.

[–] minecraftchest1@social.opendesktop.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@borari
I haven't heard anything about the AUR going away. Cany you link me to your source please?
@freagle

[–] borari@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve spent like 20 minutes trying to figure out what lodged that thought in my brain and I can’t find anything. I think maybe I mixed up a Kali extras repo or something, but can’t find any mention of that either, so clearly I'm losing it.

[–] Adda@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You gave me quite a scare, too. It is unrealistic for Arch and its derivatives, but the few seconds before a brain starts working again were terrifying. But I believe there truly was some mistake somewhere along the way, as I am pretty certain no such thing is happening in the close future. Make sure to treat yourself to a good night sleep tonight for all the hard work you do ❤

[–] Kajika@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sharing the news here, I don't use fedora and don't care about Red Hat but I like LibreOffice.

I am not sure about the implications of this, I will probably never use an 'enterprise' distribution. Am I the only one?

[–] alfredb@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Am I the only one?

Not at all.

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's the open source alternative? I mean I use WPS anyway but still

[–] daviddwk@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

I use onlyoffice. It has great Microsoft office compatibility, but it's not perfect.

[–] TheBelgian@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

what does it mean for ?

or the AppImage? https://www.libreoffice.org/download/appimage/

I don't get all the fuse about Flatpak. I does not solve anything for FOSS. Maybe for proprietary software and still... Steam/Microsoft/Google provide packages for most of the principal distro.

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