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[–] cardboard_violator@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just wanted to say that for most use cases there is a better way to do things than using port forwarding. And by that I mean by using something like Tailscale.

So, maybe before you start looking for an alternative to Mullvad have a look at the possibility of dropping port forwarding first and improving your security at the same time.

[–] jonah@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

Yep, for things you host absolutely. However, P2P applications (e.g. torrent clients) are still going to be negatively affected by this.

[–] voynich@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A lot of people are jumping to AirVPN and ProtonVPN, neither of which I really trust. ProtonVPN in particular because Proton has given out user data for their mail service in the past (0). I'm going to stick with Mullvad, as there's not really any other service that lets you pay with cash and has a real no logging policy (1). Of course, best of luck to anyone who wants to tread into other VPN providers, let me know if you find something good. :)

(0): https://www.thedailybeast.com/secure-email-provider-protonmail-handed-over-user-data-to-europol

(1): https://www.theverge.com/2023/4/21/23692580/mullvad-vpn-raid-sweden-police

[–] bigtechblows@techhub.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@voynich @jonah

They didn't give out anything. It's called a search warrant.

[–] voynich@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My point still stands, they keep logs.

[–] mordekaiq89@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As a general statement that is incorrect. That was a specific case where they were legally compelled to give what they could, the default is no logs.

[–] crewman_princess@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm sceptical that they just turned on logging(even if they were legally obligated) and did not write that they have to do so if the police forces them. They claim that this is not possible for their vpn service though. I'm also quite sceptical to the fact that Proton is trying to everything, mail, storage, vpn and now password management?

[–] voynich@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago
[–] Parsnip8904@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People jumping ship, where to?

[–] depreciated_cost@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Parsnip8904@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Proton changes the port at reconnect/restart.

[–] depreciated_cost@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn never knew. I'm assuming there might be some client for that issue though?

[–] Parsnip8904@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I saw a docker container for reassigning the port for qbittorrent but generally there is no solution. You've to change the port reach time you restart.

[–] e2e@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] Parsnip8904@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wasn't ovpn brought by a shady company recently? I used to be a fan of theirs :(

[–] e2e@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah I missed that, that's unfortunate, definitely worrisome

[–] Parsnip8904@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

It kind of sucks :(

[–] robb@social.lol 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@jonah So I reply to this and then what happens?

[–] jonah@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

it shows up on the Lemmy thread! https://lemmy.one/comment/675

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