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[–] anewbeginning@lemmy.world 82 points 10 months ago (2 children)

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

[–] Zron@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

What are they gonna revolt with, butter knives?

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Let me introduce you to our good friend, a certain kind of cocktail.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

Oi, yeh got a loicense fer that there loighter?

[–] Zekas@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

You must be American with that take

[–] radiosimian@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

What are the cops gonna do, open fire?

[–] Commiunism@lemmy.wtf 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Remember when they would arrest people who criticized the monarchy after the queen of england died in the UK? Someone even got arrested for holding an empty sign because they feared that something bad could be written on it in the future.

It's a free country, as long as you're a conservative.

[–] EinfachUnersetzlich@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago

Uh, no?

There's no queen of England, there hasn't been for hundreds of years.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not a good look but then again the uk wanted to legaly mandate a real identity linked to online avtivity so they always have been a little authoritarian.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The country as a whole isn't, but the Tories are. And it's the biggest problem with first passed the post voting.

[–] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Saying one party is bad doesn't mean that others aren't, like it's somehow mutually exclusive. Although, pointing out another is bad too doesn't negate the evils of the other. Lesser evils and whatnot.

[–] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 6 points 10 months ago

True. I and I understand pointing out the Tories as they're in power. However by not pointing out that Labour are just as bad we run the risk of fooling ourselves that these kinds of infringements to our civil rights will go away if we get the Tories out.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Mate i got no idea what a torie is

[–] Beardedsausag3@kbin.social 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A type of snake mixed with a rat.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago

Heartily chuckled. They all are grotesque experiments gone horribly awry—politicians in general.

[–] Worx@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 10 months ago

Tory = Conservative (the political party in power)

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

Watch v for vendetta

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

... and you don't wanna 🤮

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I can only ever see that emoji as shrek getting head.

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

The Loyalists during the American Revolution.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 10 months ago

I'm shocked! You mean to tell me that the country that will throw you in jail for a tasteless facebook post doesn't support free speech, the right to assemble, or the right to protest? Who'da thunk it?

[–] Lath@kbin.social 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps they would like to borrow the French guillotine for some time.

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Maybe the French should conquer them again and give them the guillotines.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

We don't need to eat macaroni if you don't like it.

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 16 points 10 months ago

“The ‘good chap’ theory of checks and balances has now been tested to destruction.”

🤡

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Britain is one of the world’s oldest democracies

democracies

(X) Doubt

Also, while reading this, or any article, it's always good to mentally substitute "the economy" for "the wealthy" or "the rich and powerful"

The Conservative government says the laws prevent extremist activists from hurting the wealthy and disrupting daily life

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's kinda hard to agree with your point on the economy, given that one of the key drivers of the Brexit vote with pure apathy for the British economy and its reliance on funneling money through the financial sector.

While you're not wrong, a lot of people voted on the belief that it didn't matter if the economy went to shit, because "things are already shit". Now, the poor are even poorer, and the damage will likely last generations.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 0 points 10 months ago

My sympathy for a literal peasant class in 2020 is limited.

Ask France what to do if you're solution oriented, British progressives, otherwise gl "reforming" your way out of a hereditary ruling class with veto power.

[–] wooki@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 10 months ago

Wait until they hear what has been passed by the majority of the Australian states

For those who missed it

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[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 6 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The effect of that patchwork is “we rely on self-restraint by governments,” said Andrew Blick, author of “Democratic Turbulence in the United Kingdom” and a political scientist at King’s College London.

The canaries in the coal mine of the right to protest are environmental activists who have blocked roads and bridges, glued themselves to trains, splattered artworks with paint, sprayed buildings with fake blood, doused athletes in orange powder and more to draw attention to the threats posed by climate change.

The protesters, from groups such as Extinction Rebellion, Just Stop Oil and Insulate Britain, argue that civil disobedience is justified by a climate emergency that threatens humanity’s future.

Legal changes made in 2022 created a statutory offense of “public nuisance,” punishable by up to 10 years in prison, and gave police more powers to restrict protests judged to be disruptive.

Structural engineer Morgan Trowland was one of two Just Stop Oil activists who scaled the Queen Elizabeth II Bridge over the River Thames near London in October 2022, forcing police to shut the highway below for 40 hours.

Half the environmentalists tried by juries have been acquitted after explaining their motivations, including nine women who smashed a bank’s windows with hammers and five activists who sprayed the Treasury with fake blood from a firehose.


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[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Blocking roads, and stopping ordinary people from going about their day, is a very ill thought out way to protest. It doesn't affect the people making the decisions, it merely punishes the least powerful members of society.

And it will inevitably turn the public against you, as we see here.