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Why is the journalistic standard to embed tweets (xeets?) instead of using screenshots?

An embedded tweet can be deleted, and depends on X supporting the functionality. If editing is ever introduced on the platform, it would permanently break all past articles that don't have an independent record of the tweet (such as a full quote in the article or a screenshot). X can potentially (and maybe does) embed tracking features.

It seems like there are a lot of good reasons not to use embedded tweets, but almost every news source does it this way. Is there a good reason why?

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[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 43 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

It's been common practice for well over decade now...

Embedded content lets you click on it to follow the tweet chain and see more info or even contribute to the conversation. A screenshot only shows exactly what the author decides to show you and nothing more.

Content disappearing or twitter walling itself off hasn't been an issue until twatwaffle took over.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 16 points 11 months ago

Sounds like we need a single click "archive.org + embed" solution.

It would also freeze the content as is

[–] berkeleyblue@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

I mean to be fair you could just show the Screenshot and then link the image to the tweet (or whatever it is called now…). Best of both worlds (but more work)

[–] Nawor3565@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Exactly. Also, screenshots can easily be doctored. An embedded tweet could not be, since you could easily click the link to see the original tweet.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

So a screen shot linking to the original tweet, then?

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

Or they can do both. Post a screenshot and link the tweet below it so users have the option to click to the source. I don’t explicitly block twitter but it’s so bad that more often than not the embedded tweet doesn’t display when viewing the page with uBO.

[–] Jajcus@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

'doctoring' can go both ways. Embedding gives more 'doctoring power' to original poster and X.

[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 37 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As far as I remember it's part of Xitters Terms and Conditions that if you want to show a tweet you need to embed it, otherwise you're stealing it.

And for Xitter it's great, they still can change or delete it, they run javascript on the news page to get all your information, etc.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Lol what are they going to do if I break ToS ban me from Twitter?

[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They don't care about you but yes they would probably go after a newspaper and sue them for copyright infringement.

[–] Steve@communick.news 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That suit would be practically impossible, as it's clearly Fair Use.

[–] centof@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

Fair use is a defense you have to make in court. And court is expensive.

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I hate Twitter but I despise articles that just post 3 tweets and provides a barebones AI recap of the conversation.

[–] Tvkan@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago

If you're a large online news outlet doing this repeatedly: Probably sue you.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Journalists citing twitter are lazy idiots. LAZY. Twitter has done journalism no favors despite the conventional wisdom.

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Embeds update to reflect your typeface setting, scaling for larger or smaller screens, are compatible with screen readers... and you are giving immediate access to the original source. Screenshots are completely static and could be easily faked etc. Having archived copies of things is good of course but there's no real reason to do it for the display version in a webpage

[–] blargerer@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago

Although this provides the best experience (very broadly speaking) for new users. It only takes looking at websites from 20 years ago to realize that it ages very poorly and no one maintains the links/external media once they break.

[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Those are indeed good reasons, but there’s so much other content that doesn’t scale, like charts, graphs, and maps. If I was running a large media company, I’d rather use high-resolution screenshots than let the Muskrat alter the content of my stories.

Let him sue. I’d rather go to court than let that jackass undermine journalistic integrity.