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The mother of a transgender girl sobbed in federal court Wednesday as she contemplated having to move away from her Navy officer husband to get health care for her 12-year-old if Florida’s ban on gender dysphoria treatments for minors is allowed to take affect.

The woman, who testified as Jane Doe to protect the identity of her child, said her daughter went from being anxious and upset to a thriving, happy straight-A student after being allowed to live as a girl about eight years ago, a decision she made with her husband after multiple visits to their family’s doctor.

But as the girl approaches puberty, she fears she will start turning into a boy. Without treatment, she and her family will be devasted, the mother said.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 48 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The cruelty is the point. The evidence is clear. Transitioning saves lives, including in teen years. They waited to try to ban it until after the psychiatric community had come to a general agreement.

On a personal note, I’ve known teenagers who killed themselves or attempted over delays in transitioning until adulthood. It’s really fucked up.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The cruelty is the point. The evidence is clear.

I actually disagree that the cruelty is intentional. I think conservatives have proven pretty clearly at this point that they devote a considerable amount of mental effort to believing their views are correct, no matter what the data show. I think they genuinely think transsexuality is a farce, just like they believe homosexuality is a mental illness, and that they're protecting children from bad influences by preventing them from transitioning. The problem is willful ignorance and lack of appreciation for critical thinking.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

You're half right.

They genuinely believe trans identity is a farce, but also, the cruelty is the point. They believe that children are being indoctrinated by Big Groomer, but they also believe those children are freaks and deserve to suffer because they've been tainted by transgenderism. They see us as diseased and anyone infected as filth that must be purged in order to protect the rest of the flock.

[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Yep. The suffering will make people turn to God, and they’ll accept Jesus into their heart and ask him to make them cis hetero, and also bring them a unicorn for Christmas.

[–] Shalakushka@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

You are incorrect, they just think being a certain amount of correct in their mind excuses any amount of cruelty. Unfortunately, they're completely fucking incorrect and still massively cruel.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago

The cruelty is the point. We can not let this become nationwide.

[–] transmatrix@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

Fuck Desantis

[–] Syo@kbin.social 10 points 9 months ago

Sorry for the family.

Fuck Republicans and their bigotry.

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

8 years ago she was 4 right? That seems quite young.

[–] EmoBean@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

This ban is abhorrent, but uhhh yeah 4-5? I can remember when I was that old. I was in preschool/kindergarten. I could barely read. I cried because my best friend wouldn't let me take his star wars toy outside in the dirt. I thought if I pushed too hard when I pooped my balls might fall out.

I was fucking stupid and would have gone along with whatever my parents told me to do. I literally had no concept of myself yet. At that age we are purely taking in the world, our parents want and try to control what goes in.

[–] webadict@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

We begin forming our gender identity fairly young, and at 2-3, we do have a relatively simple grasp on gender, and broad concepts are pretty easy to understand. A child that asks you to call them a boy or a girl instead of their assigned birth gender isn't even particularly strange! Children explore their identities in a lot of ways, from nicknames to the way they dress and act and play.

I have a 6-year old cousin who is adamant that she is a girl with some solid reasoning behind it, and she was never told any of it. She came up with it herself! I think you underestimate children, and maybe you underestimate yourself, too.

[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yes, you could barely read at 4-5, but you already had a sense of identity. The fact that this kid has consistently identified as a girl from literally the moment gender identity develops is pretty strong evidence that she’s not just pretending to make the adults happy.

My wife first told her mother she was a girl at age 5. Her mother freaked out, told her she was going to hell, took her to church groups, and made her pray it out until she lied and said she was a boy now. She transitioned anyway in her 20s, and her mother and her no longer talk.

Trans kids are not pretending to be trans. Kids know their own gender, and it is both consistent and persistent. They only ever pretend to be cis.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Were you old enough to be bothered if someone pretended your gender was the opposite of what felt it was? What about if everyone did that? That's what trans people have to deal with. You don't have to have an academic understanding of a problem to be hurt by it, or to be treated for it.

You're also implicitly buying into the narrative that parents, doctors, and therapists are conspiring to trick kids into believing they're trans when they're not. What kind of monsters do you think those people are, and what do you think they'd be getting out of it?

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Glad they say trans healthcare instead of just healthcare.

That way we know what they're talking about immediately.

[–] BrownBear0311@lemmy.world -5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Democrats will say anything to mess with kids. Thank God this ban is happening. Leave the kids alone champs.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

So you think government should interfere with parents rights?

Interesting.

[–] Shalakushka@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

Troll account with no posts