I freaking love this show, I started late with Discovery, although I didn't fully like it, I still took the bait. Strange New Worlds is amazing though. Since then I've watched several shows and movies but SNW and Picard are my favorites for production value, art direction,and focusing on several characters and core values.
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I have really adored Strange New Worlds. It feels far more like Star Trek than most of the later stuff, IMHO. I'm glad they kept Ethan Peck as Spock, because he was one of the few things I liked in Disco.
I felt like most of Picard wasn't great -- especially season 2. But I'm just not a fan of big season arcs, at least not the way they do them now. One great draw for me to things like TNG is the fact I can drop in whenever. Long arcs do exist, but they don't tend to be the point of every. single. episode. Picard felt to me like it had little to offer except the same arc all the time. Most things are just put together like 8- or 13-hour movies now -- but I much prefer planet-of-the-week.
In fact, I make the same argument when discussing the Orville. Sad it was canceled, because it felt even more like Trek than SNW.
Sad it was canceled
You just gave me really bad news, I had no idea :(
@circuitfarmer @warmaster I was so disappointed in Picard. Season 1 seemed to take all the wrong lessons from modern TV: it went for the gore and tragedy of Game of Thrones but that just doesn't fit the Star Trek medium.
I can see what they wanted to do with Discovery, but quite honestly it felt like there was too little respect for what Trek was before. It didn't have to be the same, but Discovery S1 felt like it was different for the sake of being different, not to be good.
With the hype of Section 31, I really wish there was a continuation of DS9 like the documentary had. It seems so weird to me that a series that was hated had a critical part of it taken for the newer series.
~~Maybe you should consider the possibility that it's not as "hated" as you think, considering it spawned three direct spinoffs and generally revitalized the franchise.~~
I'm a big ol' dummy.
There are tons of interviews, news, etc. and actors and actresses + show runners involved with DS9 talking about its unpopularity at the time.
You know what, I misinterpreted your comment.
Though I do think "hated" is a bit much - DS9 certainly was the least popular of the 90s shows, but...it ran for seven years.
I liked #DS9. It wasn't just one big happy Starfleet crew. The interplay was infinitely more interesting for it.
By contrast, I hated #Voyager because even though there should have been tension between the combined Starfleet and Maquis crews, they ruthlessly and relentlessly suppressed even the slightest appearance of it. Also, I didn't think much of Kathryn Janeway's philosophy.
But for these very reasons, most fans seemed to love Voyager and hate DS9.
@benfell @ValueSubtracted I loved Voyager as a kid, but I was 11 when it ended so 🤷♂️. Rewatching it now is hard because most episodes leave me with the feeling of missed potential. While it didn't need to be as serialised as DS9 ended up, paying a bit more attention to continuing character threads or subplots across episodes or seasons would have made it a much stronger series. We joke about the torpedo count, but it's a symptom of how little care Voyager took to developing its story.
I will be very impressed if the S31 movie doesn't suck.
It’s the first time I have 0 interest in a Star Trek anything.
The entire idea of Section 31 sucks in the first place, so that probably won't help.
Cheers for snw, jeers for s31.
Cool, cool. Looking forward to seeing how the writers are going to handwave their way out of the Gorn-shaped hole they dug for themselves.