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[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago (1 children)

When was the era of major health reform?

[–] Jah348@lemm.ee 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My thoughts exactly. Did I miss the start?

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Do you remember when insurance companies could jack up your premiums if you got sick, or even drop your coverage in the middle of treatment? Or when they could surprise you with over $15K a year for individual out of pocket costs?

That was 2009. It was a big problem. They can't do those things any more.

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 9 points 9 months ago

The Affordable Healthcare Act, or Obamacare, did this.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That was, of course, 14 years ago.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The ACA was passed 14 years ago. But it took a while to completely come into effect, and it was subsequently modified. The last major change was the repeal of the individual mandate which took effect in 2019.

[–] SoylentBlake@lemm.ee 15 points 9 months ago

Insurance

The one purpose built industry that not only improves exponentially with but can only function by being at scale. That.is.it's.whole.reason.to.exist.

Every argument against M4A is a known lie consciously being said to our faces. It's parasites squirming in where they don't belong, to steal whatever value they can connive, instead of producing anything of value and actually contributing to society

Just like landlords, it's inherited generational bloatware. Like herpes, I think...um, kinda?? ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

Landlords = herpes.

I'm rolling with it. I don't need any clarification on that.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

Damn, the Republicans didn't even get to introduce their hallmark "The Poors Should Fuck Off and Die" bill. They only need a couple more weeks guys.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

— at least for now.

At some point we'll face the fact that we can save another 1/3 of health care costs by using a Medicare for all (fuck the insurance companies) and making the health industry government owned (yikes socialized medicine). But that will be a long time from now.

[–] SoylentBlake@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Lump ALL insurance together, make it government run, or legislate it non-profit, with pay rates the same, and tiered the same as social workers.

We need to shame these companies that profiteer off of their neighbors. It's state sanctioned looting of someone's estate while they're down. If they want to profit, let them offer profit packages in other countries, we dont need anymore ambulance chasing opportunists. Beaurocrats...shudders

[–] triptrapper@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

"Everybody who supports single-payer healthcare says, ‘Look at all this money we would be saving from insurance and paperwork.’ That represents 1 million, 2 million, 3 million jobs of people who are working at Blue Cross Blue Shield or Kaiser or other places. What are we doing with them? Where are we employing them?” - Obama, 2006

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/mr-obama-goes-washington/

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

I've given up hope of any meaningful reform on meaningful issues, so this article isn't that disheartening. However, I hate it when Democrats use phrases like this:

Americans would have access to affordable health coverage

I don't want affordable coverage. I want affordable care. The concept of health insurance as a thing I need to buy should not exist.