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[–] 4am@lemm.ee 62 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This is an attempt to behead universities by conservative freaks by twisting anti-genocide positions into antisemitism, which might be the most FUCKED thing I’ve seen yet.

“If you don’t support razing apartments full of children then you’re an antisemite!”

Nah, see it’s not about the fact that they’re Jewish, it’s the fact they’re an apartheid state, and they’re committing genocide. This is about their government and their leaders.

[–] monkE@feddit.ch 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Since when did criticism of a government start being equal to hatred towards the common people of the country?

This is bs. Every question is being shut down by Western media and politician using the antisemite tag.

[–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

It’s a deliberate propaganda position. Israel has no stance other than the weak “its defense” and for a long time they’ve said stuff like this to protect them from any criticism.

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm glad this generation is witnessing firsthand how much control Zionists have over public perception.

[–] Ejh3k@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Raise your hand if you knew Penn held stocks in Stone Ridge prior to this CEO's statement.

No one? Thought so.

I appreciate their stance and potential action, but Penn's president's statements in no way, shape or form, affected Stone Ridge in the least.

[–] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I don't think i understand. You're saying that since Stone Ridge isn't affected by something they can't pull their support ?

[–] Ejh3k@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No. What I'm saying is that no one would have known of their financial support of Penn, until he made it known.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Penn probably knows who pays their bills

[–] Ejh3k@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes. Of course they do. But this guy is just using this as a stunt

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Could've been pissed off over their statements

[–] Ejh3k@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago
[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No. They're saying that Stone Ridge has no corporate justification for their actions and this is being done for petty reasons.

[–] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 1 points 11 months ago

Why would they need "corporate justification" ?

[–] drislands@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It sounds like Magill said some really stupid shit.

In their testimony, the presidents evaded questions on whether calling for the genocide of Jews violated their institutions' codes of conduct.

Penn President Elizabeth Magill said: "If the speech turns into conduct, it can be harassment."

Calling for genocide isn't harassment, according to her. Guess I can go to U Penn and start loudly telling everyone we should exterminate the lesser races and it's fine.

She was asked point blank if calling for genocide was against their rules, and she said "it depends on the context". How is that not the easiest, most softball question? How hard is it to say "absolutely it's against the rules, but I will clarify that I don't believe supporting the Palestinian people is the same as calling for genocide"?

[–] Whoresradish@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think this was an important quote from the article for context.

"In that moment, I was focused on our university's longstanding policies aligned with the US Constitution, which say that speech alone is not punishable," Magill said in the video. "I was not focused on, but I should have been, the irrefutable fact that a call for genocide of Jewish people is a call for some of the most terrible violence human beings can perpetrate. It's evil — plain and simple."

[–] drislands@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

That's a fair statement. It's still a bad idea to take a vague center approach when the topic of genocide comes up, IMO. This, of all times, was the time to take a stand.

[–] slimarev92@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Her testimony wasn't very good, but this is literally cancel culture?

[–] JunkMilesDavis@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

While I'm fully uncomfortable with the influence donors have over these institutions, I also feel like the handling of some of those hearing questions was catastrophic. Lady got maneuvered into giving them exactly the weak non-answer they were fishing for. It's bad all around.

[–] automattable@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The rise in antisemitism is really alarming, and the fact that it’s not limited to unserious, conservative trolls makes it even more so.

[–] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

The leadership of Israel is insisting that any criticism of them is anti-semitism. Lying has a habit of undermining the seriousness of an accusation and recruits for your opposition.

Most muslims are semites too, and they are being murdered, fired, and blacklisted simply for opposing Israel. Is Israel anti-semitic?

[–] Hiuhokiguess@reddthat.com 5 points 11 months ago

This rise in anti-Zionism is great though. Free Palestine.

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What about the rise in Islamophobia?