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[–] ImTryingLemmy@lemmy.world 215 points 11 months ago (4 children)

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[–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 46 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] harmsy@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago (8 children)

That or it traps me in captcha hell and won't let me see anything. WTF, man?

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[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

12ft.io/https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/06/business/chipotle-attacker-sentenced-to-fast-food-job/index.html

Does this work ?

[–] ImTryingLemmy@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Yes it did, thanks. I've seen people use 1ft.io also

edit: lol that lady is a bitch but I'd have told the judge to just sit me for the whole sentence. Eat shit dude, I'm not working fucking fast food. Of course, I don't treat anyone like shit no matter the occupation

[–] ericisshort@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Most of all, I feel bad for the fast food workers and patrons that have to deal with her during her two months.

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 127 points 11 months ago (7 children)

How will the logistics of this work? Are there fast-food restaurants that would accept a privileged Karen with anger management issues as a member of their team? After all, they have a business with tight margins to run, and this sounds like a huge liability.

[–] MrShankles@reddthat.com 116 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Free labor, and keep her away from customers. Cleaning, prepping, whatever. If she causes problems, she violates probation and serves the rest of time in prison. Give the store an incentive to deal with her. With thin margins, I'd take those odds. Fuck threatening to fire; if you fuck up, you go back to prison. "Now clean the damn fryer's like your freedom depended on it"

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 85 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Don't keep her from customers. Let the Karen deal with the Karens. Poetic justice.

[–] Nepenthe@kbin.social 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

While it is funny, I don't think that the punishment for her in this article will really amount to much. If she had the kind of empathy necessary to relate that experience with what she put others through, she wouldn't have done it in the first place.

Whatever customers like herself that she comes across, I think it's a 50/50 whether she spends her time doing nothing but exacerbating problems and causing regular scenes or siding with "her people" and breaking rules, stealing, etc. out of spite.

Agree with MrShankles it has to be under threat of breaking probation to even work. Ultimately, she needs more reform than just receiving identical abuse in turn.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 39 points 11 months ago

Lots of people only experience empathy for other people when they are directly involved or confronted with those people.

Like all those stories of homophobes who reform after learning a loved one is gay. They need their nose shoved in it before they could even picture someone elses viewpoint, but if you do that then they do empathize.

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[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 114 points 11 months ago (7 children)

On the one hand, I like this, but on the other hand it’s bad if judges are handing out other people’s every day life as a punishment

[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 103 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is meant to be rehabilitation by teaching her empathy. Jail won’t change her but this might.

[–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Ultimately jail is meant to be rehabilitation, I see how the punishment fits much better.

But then I'm bias cuz I'm not a fan of the criminal justice system and prison industrial complex in general.

[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 32 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Jail is punishment only. They are cages to make people disappear while middle class white people pray to NIMBY Jesus.

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[–] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Jails in the US are for punishment at best and torture at worst.

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[–] CodingCarpenter@lemm.ee 93 points 11 months ago

Don't think of it that way. You're not saying oh this is terrible so now you have to do this. You're saying this is a demanding job and you ought to have respect for the people who do it. Give them a little insight into the hardships of the people they're giving shit

[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 45 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Perhaps we don't call it a punishment. We can call it rehabilitation.

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[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 26 points 11 months ago

Some people’s everyday lives are punishment. That’s the world we’ve built.

On top of that, there are those who can’t/won’t learn empathy. The only way they can understand is by actually living through it themselves. I think sentences like this should be commonplace for anyone who commits a crime against a service worker.

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

If you've ever worked in a low paying customer service job for a prolonged amount of time, you know that IT IS a punishment.

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[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I sentence you to be surewhynotlem for a week. A punishment worse than death.

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[–] Fleur__@lemmy.world 97 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
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[–] IanSomnia@lemmy.world 83 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Some little leagues have a similar rule. If a parent verbally abuses an umpire enough that parent must umpire a certain number of games to see just how hard it is. Punishment fits the crime perfectly.

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 61 points 11 months ago (3 children)

My kids little league tried that, lasted a game before they realized that having a biased ref that doesn’t know the rules doesn’t make for a fun experience for the kids.

One of those sounds great in theory things, which is why it’s probably such a popular fallacy to spread.

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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 72 points 11 months ago (11 children)

Everyone should be forced to work a service industry job for at least six months when they're teenagers. It helps you develop a healthy misanthropy

[–] PaperTowel@lemm.ee 34 points 11 months ago

Absolutely my first job was fast food, and I had no clue the level of entitlement of some people. Some people treat fast food employees like they're not even people.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 19 points 11 months ago

That sounds like a way for service industries to exploit their workforce even more; if people have to work them, then competition for those jobs would rise, especially during non school hours. Plus, if school is any indication, kids would put it basically no effort if they have to work there and cant just be fired (and if they can, what happens if they are and therefore cannot complete the six months?). I dont think itd really reduce the entitlement either, itd just become "Ive done my service work so I'm entitled to act however I want, kid!" from those kinds of customers anyway.

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[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 65 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Her attorney, Joseph O’Malley, said his client had no criminal record before the incident and that she is truly sorry for her actions that day.

“Let’s give her the opportunity to not let this one day define the rest of her life,” he told CNN.

Righhhht. No way she always treat fast food (and other services industry) employees that way, and this is just the first time it escalated to court.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago (3 children)

She's likely a cunt, but why ruin people's futures when you can have teachable moments, this sentencing is brilliant and should have been a bit longer.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

And let's not forget she's also spending a month in jail before being released to work fast food.

What she did was horrible, but she's definitely not getting off free.

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[–] voidMainVoid@lemmy.world 37 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I thought we had laws against cruel and unusual punishment.

[–] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 15 points 11 months ago

It's an opt-in arrangement.

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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Everyone should have at least one bad service job once in their life.

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[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

now that’s justice

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Gilligan told CNN he’s not sure Hayne is as sorry as she claimed to be in court, pointing out that she was still complaining about the food during the hearing.

“She still has not picked up that this is not appropriate,” Gilligan told CNN Wednesday.

“You didn’t get your burrito bowl the way you like it, and this is how you respond?” he told Hayne during the hearing. He suggested she’s not going to be happy with the food she’s about to get in jail.

I like this judge.

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[–] SnugZebras@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I love the comment from Chipotle about justice being served.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 26 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Justice is a dish best served... with a side of chips and our famous guacamole, and a 20oz fountain drink!

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[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The length of time is good, too. It takes you about a month to get competent, and another month to realize that no, it doesn’t matter how good you get. The job sucks regardless.

I hope they put her on register so she gets lots of face time with lovely customers like herself. No fair if she hides in back making guacamole all day!

[–] brihuang95@sopuli.xyz 16 points 11 months ago

This is actually very fitting

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