this post was submitted on 05 Dec 2023
268 points (97.5% liked)

politics

19097 readers
4270 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
all 21 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 152 points 11 months ago (3 children)

... an excerpt from the book, detailing a phone call made two days before the deadly Capitol attacks in which the former president's legal team allegedly discussed the fake elector scheme. Cheney, who noted that Trump's attorneys were unaware that she was listening in on the call, also observed that former Vice President Mike Pence was acting in cooperation with the plans at that time. 

Saved you a click

[–] mibo80@lemm.ee 48 points 11 months ago

That definitely corroborates about his text message that he claims was, "missing a comma." Pence was all for until he realized Trump actually didn't have anything under control and would throw Pence under the bus. No loyalty amongst Trump's loyalists.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And instead of telling anyone she sat on it, for her book.

This country is fucked.

[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 23 points 11 months ago

So did every other mad fucker with a book deal. Fucking Bob Woodward sat on his Trump/COVID interview for months so he could put it in a book.

I've got no respect anymore for anyone that writes a book about current/recent events.

[–] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Every. Fucking. Time

Don't buy this shit, folks

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 64 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Shit is severely fucked if Liz Fucking Cheney is the voice of reason.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Her dad shot a guy in the face, and a week later the guy apologized to him.

Shit is severely fucked if Liz Fucking Cheney is the voice of reason.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

We usually don't evaluate someone's reasonableness based on things their dad did. Not this millennium anyway. Perhaps there's something from her own political career.

[–] Laughbone@lemmy.world 55 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I’m not too familiar with Liz Cheneys actions before the insurrection, did she do anything to try and stop it happening or just sit back, watch and write a book later?

[–] mibo80@lemm.ee 63 points 11 months ago (3 children)

She was actively and strongly against Trump during his whole term and it costed her Wy. senate seat. Agreed though, if she had over heard this why didn't she raise the alarm.

Answer: because she's a dirty, conservative Republican.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

Says she went to the Senate parliamentarian

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But not so against Trump that she would actually vote against him or anything, right? Cheney may make a show of opposing Trump, but she still supported the policies that he did while he was in office.

Cheney came to Washington in 2016, along with Donald Trump. Didn't like him, she said, but she supported his policies on issues like abortion and gun control. She voted with him more than 90 percent of the time.

[–] mibo80@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago

For sure, those are lodestone issues. I think at this point Trump is the only person who could break from those and still be considered a Republican. Cheney was a loyal Republican, but not loyal to Trump. No pity for her though and I want the whole party to go down in flames.

[–] Corgisocks@programming.dev 3 points 11 months ago

I don't remember her being actively and strongly against Trump prior to Jan 6th. Wasn't she number 3 in the house leadership before Jan 6th? Her stance that Trump attempted a coup is what lost her seat.

[–] mibo80@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago

She's still a Republican. She doesn't want to sink the party she just wants a different leader, but she's happy with all the trade-offs the GOP has made to get the loyalty Trump has from his base. Just get rid of Trump and keep the spoils.

[–] Syringe@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's a good thing she told all of the right people that this happened so that we could avoid an obvious coup and threat to the constitution that she swore an oath to protect...

Amirite, guys?!?

Why did the room get so quiet?

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago
[–] Cruxifux@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why didn’t she say anything to anybody before Jan 6?!

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Says she went to the Senate parliamentarian. The fake electors were denied access to the building. Don’t know if this was because they were given a heads up.

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago

How did she just happen to be listening in on this call?