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Nothing pulls its iMessage app from the Play Store following privacy disaster
(www.androidpolice.com)
This imploded so quickly I'm impressed
this post was submitted on 19 Nov 2023
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I think they actually got more press for fucking it up than launching it.
Can confirm, I never heard of them before this post.
"That nothing, hold my beer!"
-Elon Musk, probably
Clearly the issue is that piss poor security practices hate free speech.
We hear enough about Musk. There's no need to bring him up where it's not relevant.
What crackhead thought it would be a good idea to store all of that unencrypted?
The same crackhead that thought it was a smart idea to build a business around giving iCloud credentials to a middle man.
Insert Bilbo "after all, why shouldn't I" meme.
The company behind the chat software, so these guys
Are there plans for a desktop client?
Anybody with a browser is going to be able to use Sunbird. The messages will synchronize. A big challenge has been synchronizing without them storing the data but we got it right. The web app will synchronize with the Sunbird app. Bottom line... Got a browser? You will be able to use Sunbird.
They already can go to hell.
The frantic fumbling to find whichever bloody tab on which bloody window is making the chime is really something I can do without. And when I DO ignore it, I'm somehow at fault.
I mean they can mostly go to hell by stating
The Sunbird servers do not store user data promoting a safe, secure, and private messaging environment. With end-to-end encrypted, confidential messaging, Sunbird is fully secure and completely private.
And then literally storing unencrypted user data on their servers, doing the exact opposite of their claims.
This whole company/product comes off as a shitty cash grab from idiot techbros with little knowledge of software. Apple is going to eat them alive once the litigation starts.
I mean it’s Carl Pei, right? He’s always done stuff to get attention his products one way or another.
All Pei did was put a Nothing skin on Sunbird. It was Sunbird that didn’t encrypt the comms.
That said, Pei was so damn thirsty for marketing attention that Nothing obviously didn’t fully vet the security around Sunbird’s product.
He should have choose a better product. Is Beeper better than Sunbird?
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This is one of the many reasons I don't like Nothing. They are willing to put users at risk just so they can sell a few more phones.
Let me tell you Nothings strategy:
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Make an extract clone of the iPhone and put some gimmick lights on it to get attention.
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Make some airpod clones but make them see through to again attract attention
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Try to get iMessage working on Nothing 2 (screw you if you're on Nothing 1, Apple style) to reinforce the impression you're using an iPhone.
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If successful, price the Nothing 3 even higher to make it seem premium even though it's nothing special at all.
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Bring features to the Nothing 3, that the Nothing 2 and Nothing 1 will never get, even though there is no reason not to give it to them too.
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Repeat for Nothing 5 and every other Nothing ever. And eventually reach iPhone pricing.
In short, they are using their users just to get popular, become like Apple and get rich. Only to screw you over and make future phones super expensive.
Much like One Plus did. First you position yourself as flagship killer, and once you get a loyal following and deals with mobile carriers then you push the price sky high and give your supporters the middle finger.
Anyone who buys Nothing is a fool.
- Do some YouTube content as the CEO that makes you look like the nice underdog.
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Nothing is a clone of OnePlus... repeating the same strategy of OnePlus.. destined to the same fate as OnePlus.
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Despite that, I have a Nothing Phone 1 with LineageOS and I think it's great. The iPhone like design is actually one of the reasons I bought it. Price is also very good for the hardware. What else they're doing is nothing I care about.
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Good old fashioned enshitification.
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I don't even exist in the same world as the word "infosec" and even I shudder at the phrase "plain text"
And yet you post this in plain text. Interesting.
/s
Lesson learned. Cover up your tracks like Apple before you steal sensitive information.
This sounded like a disaster when it was first revealed they were basically relaying messages through some Macs they had lying around the office.
This is just fodder for the “android is insecure” crowd.
Yeah, the apps on iPhones never steal or mishandle your data. /s
I love how the marketing for this was absolutely everywhere. It wasn't anything new. It just tried and failed to reinvent the wheel that was matrix bridges.
And even Matrix Bridges aren't perfect either
LMAO, who would have thunk it? That was a very desperate attempt to make some sales. I noped it the second I learnt that they were using a mac mini somewhere to log people's iclouds. That was the most pathetic thing I have seen in a while.
Nog defending this practice at all, but a fun little fact is that if you get a Mac instance on AWS (and other cloud providers) It's literally a normal mac mini in a rack enclosure.
Só, sketchy idea, took around 2 days to be completely dismantled?
Just watched a SomeOrdinaryGamers video about this a couple days ago. Muta gave Nothing too much credit saying the texts etc would probably be encrypted. But lol "plain text". They crazy for that.
There's Nothing to see here.
Ah yes, what we need is another chat app, but this time with bundled badly done social media and cloud storage.
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Nothing pulls its iMessage app from the Play Store following privacy disaster
i.e. something pulled its iMessage app from the Play Store following privacy disaster
Any open source way to relay imessage from your own Mac to an android if one was so inclined?
Airmessage
Or BlueBubbles
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