Totally Max's fault. He was overtaken, he should have let Ocon go.
The evidence is that Max actually went entirely off the track after the overtake which shows you he was carrying too much speed and Ocon had the correct line and breaking point.
this post was submitted on 18 Nov 2023
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Every one keeps saying Max is past his reckless ways. This and his Charles dive bomb are reminders he's the same old Max. He's just in a car good enough that he doesn't have to drive reckless most of the time.
Every other car had the same problem into T1. It clearly wasn’t an intentional divebomb. It deserved penalizing for not giving the position back, but it wasn’t intentionally pushing him off just because he can.
Others had issues but not that bad, Max's brake point was by far the latest, his entry speed was the highest. If the corner was good he still wouldn't have been able to give a car's width.
Yet everyone else took essentially the same line. There was significantly less grip than everyone expected and most everyone missed the corner. Alonso sent it down the inside and looped it on his own, and that’s something that rarely happens.
It wasn’t repeated at all during the race, so I’m going to err on the side of it being a mistake (which even the best make) rather than a deliberate move to push Charles (who he regularly races very cleanly) wide
The line into the turn was not the issue the speed into it was. Max missed the exit of the turn by 10ft once you consider he had to leave space. Max missed twice as bad as anyone else. Even Alonso who spun managed to stay on the track.
Maybe a Red Bull should not let itself get overtaken by an Alpine. Max is the first to just overtake during qualifying when he thinks others are too slow.
Those things will always happen. But Ocon wasn't in the situation to play such games...
But Ocon wasn’t in the situation to play such games…
Verstappen ended up on the front row, so his qualifying was not ruined at all. In qualifying it's the duty of the slower car to get out of the way.
Alpines fault for sending out Ocon close enough to get slipstream from Max and then Ocon for trying to capitalize on it.