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[–] livus@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Tl;dr:

That does not mean that Israel wages wars to advertise its weapons, said experts. “Nobody fights wars just to show off their weapons,” said Lawrence Freedman, emeritus professor of war studies at King’s College London.

Yet, at the same time, “in every war against Gaza a range of weapons and surveillance tech has been deployed against the Palestinians which is then marketed and sold to huge amounts of nations around the world,” said Antony Loewenstein, independent journalist and author of The Palestine Laboratory.

So can Israeli weapons manufacturers legitimately market their weaponry as “battle proven” when the combat often targets unarmed civilians? They can, said Zoran Kusovac, a geopolitical and security analyst.

“If a weapon’s main purpose is proven in the actual battlefield or in as near realistic circumstances as possible, then they are battle proven,” he said. “You cannot blame countries for buying from Israel. You can test all you want in a lab, but Israel is testing in the field, and as there are never any lags of time between one period of combat to the next, the development cycle is virtually in real time.

[–] livus@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago

Forgot to add:

New weapons test in Gaza 2023?

Ashraf al-Qudra, spokesperson for the Ministry of Health in Gaza, last week said in a press statement that medical teams in the enclave had “observed severe burns on the bodies of Palestinians who were killed and wounded by Israel’s bombs – whether caused by an unknown weapon or not – is something they have not seen in previous conflicts”.

Dr Ahmed el-Mokhallalati from the burn and plastic surgery division at al-Shifa Hospital, in an interview with the Toronto Star, described the wounds as “very deep – third and fourth-degree burns, and the skin tissue is impregnated with black particles and most of the skin thickness and all the layers underneath are burned down to the bone”.

[–] jalda@sopuli.xyz 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You cannot blame countries for buying from Israel.

Of course I can

[–] livus@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

Good point, I do too.

[–] DontMakeMoreBabies@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Dirty secret? What a fucking stupid title - DUH.

[–] livus@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I probably sound naive but I had no idea they have a pattern of testing experimental weapons on Palestinians before selling them to other countries.

I knew they were selling to Myanmar during the genocide, etc but I didn't realise quite how cynical and corporate the tie in was.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And don't forget who funds the R&D and why - "war is the most profitable business on earth".

[–] wrath_of_grunge@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

And while the biggest arms dealer in the world is your boss - the President of the United States, who ships more merchandise in a day than I do in a year - sometimes it's embarrassing to have his fingerprints on the guns. Sometimes he needs a freelancer like me to supply forces he can't be seen supplying. So. You call me evil, but unfortunately for you, I'm a necessary evil.

[–] wombat@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago

all palestinian violence against israel is self-defense.

[–] MarxOverflow@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 11 months ago

We cannot be free until Palestine free. This the reason. The oppression of Palestine is the blueprint for oppression around the world.