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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] NotBillMurray@lemmy.world 111 points 10 months ago (14 children)

This it the bottom so far you mean.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Next bottom is whether the infants are conspirators or not.

[–] spamfajitas@lemmy.world 77 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Even better, infant body armor

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How did you get hold of Hamas training materiel?

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[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 80 points 10 months ago (10 children)

Judging from the comments, we can go lower.

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

"Truly this is the bottom"

Conservatives everywhere brandishing shovels: "Challenge accepted"

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[–] spirinolas@lemmy.world 45 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (9 children)

To people saying it's justified because Hamas are hiding there, if Hamas wants to kill as many Israelis as possible they could hide in a Israeli hospital and the IDF, being consistent, would bomb it just the same since it now became a military target. Right?

Yeah, you know they wouldn't, not the same way at least. Somehow Palestinians are an acceptable collateral while Israeli, specially Jews, would never be. That's how you know this isn't about Hamas.

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Very good point! I will steal it and pretend I'm as smart as you

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[–] an_onanist@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago (3 children)

And if it turns out that the accusation Hamas was using the basement as a command post is true, is that the new bottom?

[–] yukichigai@kbin.social 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean what's worse: using a human shield, or deciding "nah fuck them kids shoot through them anyway."

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 40 points 10 months ago (39 children)

What if they were shooting your kids while hiding behind their own? Would you let them keep doing it while insisting that reprisals are off limits?

[–] rosymind@leminal.space 47 points 10 months ago (19 children)

Yeah, this is the problem I'm having with people picking sides. It's a giant crap-pile of the worst of humanity. People act like there's a good side. Nah, everything's a mess of generational hatred and I hate it all.

There needs to be a cease-fire. Hamas needs to release all hostages and then be permanently removed from power in Gaza, and Israel needs to help the Palestinians rebuild what has been destroyed, burry their dead with dignity and respect, and heavily compensate the families of those who have died.

The whole thing is out of control

[–] stewsters@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (4 children)

There was a ceasefire, then Hamas attacked. Hard to rebuild trust after that.

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[–] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Still not a good reason to kill babies...

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[–] foggianism@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Demanding an evacuation of a hospital full of patients, under the threat of bombardment, only for those patients to die of complications for not being treated, this is just a more silent mass murder.

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[–] rsuri@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (21 children)

It's like everyone's opinion is "my tribe is always right and deserves all the sympathy, the other tribe is always wrong and deserves all the suffering". No one cares about solutions or examining why a conflict has persisted for 80 years. Humans are so predictable.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's not even "my tribe".

Hardly anyone posting here is Israeli or Palestinian. It's just distracting nonsense to divide us. Pick a side plebs. Look, those people have picked the other side. Hate them!

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[–] Restaldt@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago (3 children)
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[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago (16 children)

That's because apparently someone decided, without discussion, that setting military headquarters in a hospital - where babies are born - is absolutely fine and moral move.

[–] lingh0e@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Killing a building full of women and children to go after a group of people who may or may not be in said building after they killed women and children...

Two unscrupulous groups are willing to murder innocent civilians. Sounds like two groups of terrorists.

Fuck Hammas, fuck the IDF. I'm absolutely fine with them killing each other. I'm not okay with the fact that they're both using innocent civilians as pawns.

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[–] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 16 points 10 months ago (11 children)

He said, believing the IOF, who has killed Palestinians with absolute impunity, and lying through the teeth about it

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[–] neeshie@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (11 children)

Has there even been any evidence of that?

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[–] AnyProgressIsGood@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (15 children)

Do people think Hamas wouldn't hide in a hospital? Theyve proved many times civilians aren't a concern

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 72 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Do people think that there can't be two bad guys in a story? This isn't a good vs evil fight.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 31 points 10 months ago

"Good guys" are a myth invented by Hollywood to sell action figures

[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Do people think that there can’t be two bad guys in a story?

You're not going to like the answer...

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[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago (8 children)

So, that justifies killing civilians?

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 25 points 10 months ago (8 children)

no, that justifies invading a hospital

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[–] 11181514@lemm.ee 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think Hamas is hiding inside your house. What, do people think Hamas wouldn't hide inside your house?

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Is that really what we're debating? We all know it isn't.

What's important is can they get away with it before losing the support of those propping them up.

When the US and their buddies bombed the fuck out of Iraq and Afghanistan, and we all gathered around to watch the display of "shock and awe" did we bother to find out what they were bombing? Or did we just just go "take that, Taliban and Al-Qaida"?

Anything Israel are doing has been done before by their allies. They know it's shady as fuck, but also know they got away with it too.

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[–] giacomo@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago

oh, i'm sure it can go lower. just give it time

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