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Found this news via Michael Downey's toot (admin of FLOSS.social:

Cool cool, @Gargron moving all @Mastodon project discussion behind a proprietary walled garden that requires agreement with Microsoft terms of service (and their analytics tracking). Now THAT makes a ton of sense. ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

#MastoAdmin #Mastodon #OpenSource #FreeSoftware #FLOSS #privacy

I suggest the most useful place to provide feedback is the Discourse thread, if you are a member of the Mastodon community forum.

It is a pity because there's interesting stuff going on that goes the fedi direction. I replied to Michael:

What is interesting is that both for #Discourse and for #Gitea there are plans to add federation support. In Gitea the first commits are already made after @forgefriends graciously made some money available from their own project budget. AFAIU they did not get @NGIZero grant, but will continue nonetheless.

And as for Discourse. The Pavilion plugin builders have shown interest to start in 2022 their #Fediverse entry. See Discourse will be joining the Fediverse

I hope both these projects do commence, as I consider them both very important for the #Fediverse as a whole. In any case they should get any encouragement and help we can give if only spreading the word on these intentions, like I do now.

Consider joining the Forgefriends community if you are passionate to help break code forge walled gardens, specifically Github.

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[โ€“] plu@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago

What a dumb idea. Github is one of the worst quasi-monopolies in the libre world.

[โ€“] southerntofu@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Too bad so many libre projects insist on using Github. We really need decentralized forging

[โ€“] humanetech@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nice to see that article posted again. Note that the ForgeFed initiative has halted, but something better has taken its place and will build further from there. This is forgefriends. They were instrumental in the decision of Gitea to add federation support (the first commits are in the codebase), by offering some of their own project funding. Anyone interested to see this mature I heartily recommend to join the Forgefriends community and contribute.

[โ€“] southerntofu@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Forgefriends (ex. fedeproxy <-- terrible name) is a super cool project! Of course i'll repost that "decentralized forge" article every now and then since i'm the one who wrote it in the first place so i don't have to repeat myself in every argument on the topic :D

[โ€“] humanetech@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

๐Ÿ˜ ha ha, smart. Would love to see you in the forgefriends community. We are very small, very open and welcoming to everyone and there's a lotta cool things to do to get things to reality.

[โ€“] southerntofu@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i'd love to join! is there a XMPP MUC or IRC room? i couldn't find this information on the website and running a bloated webapp (mattermost) is not a solution to me :)

(sidenote: the contrast on the new homepage is really bad for readability)

[โ€“] dachary@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Most communications happen on the forum at the moment and it would be nice to see you there :-)

[โ€“] k_o_t@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[โ€“] humanetech@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

This all depends on who helps contribute. The Gitea core team have a huge workload. Their NLnet funding grant was rejected, which may cause a delay. Then at the forgefriends community anyone is welcome and there is both technical and non-technical work to do. Forgefriends started with a focus on Gitea, but they intend to move on to Gitlab, Sourcehut and any other forge who wants to become a "forge friend" and be native part of the fediverse.

[โ€“] oliver@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

I like the idea.

[โ€“] hun7r@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It makes sense, yes, but it's still unfortunate. Even my projects are currently tied to my Github account. I plan to move more stuff from Github to Sourcehut or something like that eventually. Forgefriends definitely sounds interesting and I will keep it in mind.

[โ€“] humanetech@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I think many free software devs are in a similar situation. I am gradually moving stuff over to Codeberg myself, which is based on Gitea and also a large contributor of code to the Gitea project (some core team members are at Codeberg). Recently codeberg launched Codeberg Pages with per-repo custom domain support, so I can now move off of Github Pages. Another services in beta currently is Codeberg CI (based on Woodpecker CI, a FOSS clone of drone.io).

[โ€“] hun7r@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Codeberg looks really nice and they have migration tools as well. I'll have to look into it, maybe my next projects will be there.

[โ€“] humanetech@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Yes, I really like it too. Just today I found out that they also support Issue and PR templates, which I need for porting stuff.

[โ€“] sexy_peach@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

I think it would be better to self host obviously but I understand that they don't want to host a platform that is rarely used.

[โ€“] spla@lemmy.cat 2 points 2 years ago

I think is Ok because important thing here is the software itself, Mastodon.