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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/7968927

Maybe December? So we all take money out of banks, at least current month salary, and spend cash only. I think that is something that shouldn't be hard to do and it would show if we, the people, have any power left to make positive changes for the future or we can just surrender and eat bugs.

Edit:

If I’m trading my only true value, my time, then I want to have 100% control over it, not to depend if some bank would freeze my account and I lost 1/3 of my life irreversible.

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[–] abieNathanTheyThem@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Quite the framing you got there, sweetheart!

I don't feel like it in December, how about March or April, “or we can just surrender and eat bugs.”

[–] naut@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

So ~~you~~ they think that voting makes difference? (sorry if I mispronounce you, unintentional, please do not report)

[–] abieNathanTheyThem@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Not everyone has the financial stability to withdraw their entire monthly salary from the bank.
You do not provide a clear explanation of how this action will lead to positive changes.

The use of ultimatums and hyperbole is unhelpful and short-sighted.

We have been here before, the federal reserve will bail them out ~~with our taxes~~, we can't achieve progress with regressive tactics.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/fed-to-inject-1-5-trillion-in-bid-to-prevent-unusual-disruptions-in-markets-11584033537

Edited:
Crossed the misleading part thanks to davel, Modern monetary theory (Macro Economics) does say that our taxes are not used for government spending nor bonds either.

[–] davel@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They will get bailed out, though not with our federal taxes, because our federal taxes don’t actually pay for anything.

[–] TankieReplyBot@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago

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[–] davel@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You keep saying, on your many crosspostings of this awareness campaign, that “we” don’t know this or that, but many of us Marxists on Lemmygrad do know.

[–] naut@lemmy.ml -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

are you talking about "we, the people", not sure what you are referring to, but you can't know until you try, everything else is just assumption, and assumption is mother of all fuckups

[–] davel@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It’s like I’m talking to ELIZA. You’ve got soup for brains.

[–] naut@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm replying on particular posts to particular person, the only place I used "we" in context that "we are maybe not aware" is in original post, I can't read your mind that is for sure. Don't know want you meant by "this and that", and what "you Marxists on Lemmygrad" know, I can only see that you are talking for others, but I was replying to individuals.

It might be soup, but it serves me well for now. This online rants are not my real life. My life is quite good, I only pay too much of tax so I can't transfer earnings across multiple years and have to work every year instead to have some time off, like chilling...

[–] davel@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 11 months ago

Have you considered the possibility that, instead of getting overtaxed by the government being our main problem, it’s that we’re being underpaid by our employers?

porky-happy

[–] davel@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What I think you’re unaware of is that the federal government doesn’t actually need our taxes to pay for anything. In fact, the federal government has infinite money. This is not true for state & local government, however, because they can’t create money out of thin air like the federal government can.

[–] TankieReplyBot@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago

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[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I've only really seemed it advocated for by people who run businesses or "side hustles" they don't want to pay taxes for.

Seems like a paranoid boomer thing. I don't think it would really send a message to anyone.

[–] naut@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

We will never know if we don't try. There is a reason why cash is being replaced with social credit system and digital currency.

[–] naut@lemmy.ml -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Are you living of social welfare? Why would you pay 30-40% taxes and have private healthcare, private pension, private highways...? What are you living for, what are you trading your life for?

[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So people can have social welfare and everyone can have access to healthcare and what not. It doesn't bother me if it's bettering the lives of those around me

[–] naut@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you are going to respond to me with 4chan screenshots I'll respond with season 10 episode 21 of Family Guy.

I am fine with my taxes going towards the common good and feel like unfettered capitalism would cause rampant inequality.

[–] davel@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You will be surprised to learn that your federal taxes don’t go towards anything. The government just deletes it.

Second Thought: Why The Government Has Infinite Money

[–] TankieReplyBot@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago

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[–] naut@lemmy.ml -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] JoeDaRedTrooperYT@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago

WEF sucks balls because they serve the interests of the rich.

https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/World_Economic_Forum#'The_Great_Reset'

[–] JoeDaRedTrooperYT@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago

have private healthcare, private pension, private highways…?

That kids is why private healthcare sucks, we end up payin the gov't to pay the corpos to make it cheap.

[–] Avnar@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago

First where Question? Second They would make a law so you have to keep your money on your Bank account if enough people withdraw their money.

[–] JoeDaRedTrooperYT@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago