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NCSOFT - Q3 2023 Earnings Release (lemmy.sdf.org)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by necropola@lemmy.sdf.org to c/guildwars2@lemmy.wtf

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Sales Q3 2023

GW2 sales appear to be almost unaffected by the SotO release (2023-08-22) . Not looking good.

EoD release (2022-02-28) was in Q1 2022 and sales didn't significantly increase before Q2 2022. Similar to PoF (2017-09-22) where it also took until the next quarter (Q4 2017) for sales to really pick up (almost 35K million). So maybe there is hope, i. e. how many people did you tell that they should buy SotO after you have played it?

Source: https://kr.ncsoft.com/en/ir/irArchive/earningsRelease.do

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[–] lulztard@lemmy.wtf 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Compared to pre-HoT numbers: https://i.imgur.com/Vgd7ejp.png

It's sad to see GW2 being barely able to scratch even the pre-HoT numbers of twelve month of content drought. Never mind the pre-HoT numbers during active content deployment. Took them almost ten years after their bait-and-switch.

[–] necropola@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I like this/your illustration with colors indicating the expansion releases:

It's very interesting to also look at the quarter after each expansion release which I would read as follows:

HoT was hyped very much, but wasn't very well received. Many players probably found it too hard (before HoT difficulty nerfs and power creep from later expansions) and told their friends about it.
PoF wasn't hyped very much, but was very well received. People loved their mounts and spread the word.
EoD+Steam was ... I don't know.

[–] lulztard@lemmy.wtf 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it’s much more interesting that way and a curious thing that you don’t find those numbers anywhere anymore. It’s also from interest that almost the entire 2014 numbers are during a complete and utter stop of content deployment. Almost 12 month of absolute 0 content updates in favour to rush out HoT. And it still had better numbers than everything that came afterwards up to EoD.

Though it’s revenue . Squeezing more out of less players can highten the revenue as well, and Anet got nuked from orbit by NCSoft pre-EoD.

[+] halfapage@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

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[–] lulztard@lemmy.wtf 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Switching from big social open world bosses to strict coordinated instanced content. Drastic spike in difficulty in favour of a shift away from chill casual content. General WoWification like trinity and ~~quests~~ quest-like achievement-structure. Didn't go over well with the playerbase, and took them almost ten years to barely recover from it, if one is desperate enough to use the drought numbers as a bar instead of the pre-drought ones.

[–] necropola@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think that GW2 already lost it's way/innocence very early on when ArenaNet listened to a vocal minority of players who wanted WoW-like progression and instanced content ... which lead to Fractals and Ascended Gear with Agony Infusions and later with HoT even to Raids.

I mean, there's nothing wrong with people enjoying this type of content. I hear that WoW is very much alive and -- according to MightyTeapot -- Mythic+ is even better than Fractals. Funny enough, he also says that he is playing WoW as an Instance Simulator (and not as an MMO).

What I fiind kinda sad is that ArenaNet didn't have the balls (or chance?) to stick with their original vision of what an MMO should be like and instead tried to be more like WoW.

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[–] lulztard@lemmy.wtf 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hear, hear. I'm pretty sure there are like five OG fans left that actually enjoyed the concept of a casual open world MMO. The most bizarre thing is that Anet actually managed to take off by not competing with WoW and instead pandered to an entirely different consumer bracket.

s i g h

[–] necropola@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yep, I'm probably one of those fans. Though I also very much like the team-play aspect that usually comes with (instanced) group content. What I would like are random encounters you'd find in open world (possibly instanced) which would ~~require~~ encourage people to spontaneously group up as a team of max. 5 to beat it.

Similar to Dungeoneering in RuneScape, but with occurances/entrances randomly spread out over the open world, using your current gear scaled to the level of the encounter, difficulty/rewards scaled to the number of people in the group and the overall theme based on the current zone.

[–] necropola@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

... quest-like achievement-structure.

With the worst being task collections which have to be completed in order, e. g. Frode's Journal which even forces you to do/repeat the 3 SotO metas in a specific order or it doesn't count,

W T F !

[–] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, it's not like Soto is some sort of new beginning or revolution to the game, and it definitely does not give much staying power with the casual crowd, let alone the hardcore one.

[–] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

At least GW2 is doing better than Aion, though not by a lot

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