this post was submitted on 15 Nov 2022
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I just realized that lemmy doesn't have karma like reddit. I've never paid much attention to karma. But even so it does seem to play an important role in moderation on reddit.

For instance, many subs put a karma restriction on who can post which helps decrease trolls.

And while it's true that karma gives an incentive for people to seek karma I think it's overall regulatory principle might be worth considering as a trade off.

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[–] swan@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

I don’t think so. I kind of like not having it. It’s useless and just encourages karma farming with low reposts

[–] TvanBuuren@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Upvoted because the question is good and well thought of.

No, we don't.

[–] Dick_Justice@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

No. What good has it ever done in n Reddit? Just encourages karma farmers.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

Technically it kinda does, but it's apparently not accessible unless you're an admin or using kbin.

That said, karma isn't something that should be prominently featured or featured at all IMO.

[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

No, god no.

Well, the Voyager app shows a comment score and a post score, I like to have just that. The karma system was flawed because the accounts with the most karma where mostly repost bots. Karma restrictions didn't do anything because of that.

[–] ChatGPT@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I like that you can see both upvotes and downvotes. I always deleted anything on Reddit that went below one karma here I don’t have that urge as I feel at least one person agrees and I feel like I can be my true self instead of always conforming to the sub.

[–] raresbears@iusearchlinux.fyi 5 points 1 year ago

Some apps show it but tbh I think it’s a good thing Lemmy generally doesn’t

[–] TheHighRoad@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was on Reddit since just before the Digg migration and I still don't know what karma even is not give two shits about it.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago

Please fucking no. Karma is responsible for all that is bad on Reddit. Lemmy, so far, seems to be avoiding the worst of that.

For the love of the platform, no.

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I suppose this could be implemented as a config options, so instance admins could choose to enable or disable it. Of course someone would have to write the code for it, contributions welcome :)

[–] kromonos@fapsi.be 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

More interesting question would be, how to deal with incoming messages from other systems, which doesn't support a karma system? 🤔

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Lemmy stores vote count for all posts/comments that it knows about. In case another platform doesnt support votes, the count might not be completely accurate. But anyway the count wont be accurate for remote users, because most likely we dont have all their posts/comments federated to the local instance.

[–] jrs100000@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Universal karma wouldnt work for gate keeping or weighting in a federation anyway. Since the internal activity of each server is opaque to the others, theres no practical way to verify that karma reported by a different server is genuine and not internal bot activity or just manually edited by the server owner.

[–] hfkldjbuq@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

No. This leads to the commercialization/capitalization of accounts and "karma farming" in general. Increases numbers of bots, decreases content quality. It will become yet another Reddit. If Lemmy implements that I will be out of here.

Hope you devs can see the issues with it @nutomic@lemmy.ml and not become liberals. Stop the gamification!

[–] coldhotman@nrsk.no 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you mean an accumulation of the scores, the total upvotes to posts and/or comments?

I think it's been discussed among the devs, but they didn't want people posting low quality content to harvest upvotes. I'm of the opposite opinion, I think a lot of high-quality posters want to look at their total scores and would like an overview of the total scores.

[–] jackalope@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Yes I think karma would be useful.

What's the biggest complaint about lemmy right now? Besides performance it's lack of engagement, lack of content.

Are there externalities from people chasing karma? Yes but there are ways to design around that. I really think this is something the devs should reconsider.

[–] randomaccount43543@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why is this 8 month post suddenly getting so many comments?