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[–] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Underdog? Underdog?? It's literally the default on windows!

It's like saying vanilla is the Underdog ice cream flavour haha

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anyone who thinks the browser that comes with Windows is the 'underdog ' is a complete moron.

[–] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No one actually thinks that. It’s just the argument Microsoft is trying to make to weasel out of playing by the rules.

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

That's what I'm saying though, if the regulators buy that line of crap they should be fired.

[–] olympus@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

Edge should be treated the same way as the browsers of Google and Apple.
They all including Microsoft have operating systems that try to make people to switch to their browsers with "recommendations".
Especially Microsoft is more aggressive today than Google or Apple on that. Because the majority of people refuse to switch to Edge.
If Edge isn't on the same "app position" of Safari and Chrome and is treated like Firefox, Vivaldi, Brave etc... that's a scandal.

[–] perviouslyiner@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

So Windows has an option to select a default browser. And then Outlook has an option to open links, where the two options are the default browser that you selected in Windows, and Edge. And it defaults to Edge without ever asking you. Seems a bit suspicious after the United States made them offer a choice of browsers.

[–] BorisBoreUs@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Just popped in here to rep Vivaldi. It's my daily driver. (I also use Firefox, Opera, etc)

[–] TheGreatFox@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Firefox user here. Vivaldi is the best chromium-based browser I've found, so I use it for sites that refuse to work with non-chromium browsers.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Been a user for years now.

[–] Drbreen@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Vivaldi user here. I gave FF a go again, oops still no proper sidebar. Back to Vivaldi

[–] nix@merv.news 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use https://pulsebrowser.app its a Firefox fork with a sidebar. https://floorp.app is another one

[–] Drbreen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Cheers. I'll check it out.

[–] Darkenfolk@dormi.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is the use of a sidebar?

[–] DNU@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Easier usage if you have Tons of open Tabs as Website groups are easier to handle and the interactability is improved with a vertical Bar.

[–] Drbreen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Lol I love being downvoted to oblivion for having a personal preference.

[–] RecallMadness@lemmy.nz 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Is any chromium based browser an “underdog”?

Is it really much of a choice? The bits around the outside are slightly different, big fucking deal.

You’re still contributing to and supporting the google hegemony.

[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Microsoft acquire of Activision blizzard, is whining about their default browser is not used enough. 🤡

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 6 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


A Microsoft spokesperson told The Register: "We accept our designation as a gatekeeper under the Digital Markets Act and will continue to work with the European Commission to meet the obligations imposed on Windows and LinkedIn under the DMA.

"Microsoft is basically fighting it," said Vivaldi CEO Jon von Tetzchner in an interview with The Register.

Warming to his theme, Von Tetzchner noted other ways that users were nudged Edgewards at the expense of alternatives – such as his company's Vivaldi browser.

We should be clear that it is possible to change the default browser within Windows, although the process is perhaps not the easiest to follow, particularly considering the plaintive cries from Edge at nearly every step of the way.

"My impression is that Google wants to kind of follow the rules, on other hand, trying to find their best way to make them less effective," he said.

Unsurprisingly, Von Tetzchner also had harsh words about Apple, whose restrictions have meant that the iOS version of Vivaldi has had to be based on WebKit.


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