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[–] breathe@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Oh wow. My brain told me that it was One Spanish clery sexually abused 200,000 and I thought ....how did he have all that time?

[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

In another news he also discovered cloning.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

14 a day for 40 years. A dedicated clergy member could pull it off considering they don’t really do anything for work.

[–] Bye@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Why is it always the church?

They let them get married now, right? People used to think it was that.

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

Catholic priests still can't marry

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

If you created a club, and it developed into a global franchise, and you used your billions mainly to protect your members who commit sex crimes, you're going to quite naturally find yourself surrounded by people who commit sex crimes.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Childhood trauma, repression, etc all corrupted by power.

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's literally the perfect networking setup for pedophiles.

People confess the bad thoughts they have, which lets you find like minded people, you are given access to young children alone, are a trusted member of the community upon whom people have put their own hopes of salvation so when it is your word is against a child's you are believed.

It's been a racket for pedophiles probably as early as Paul, and by the second century CE you already have a satirist using the church as a plot device for where a pedophile goes to hide out after bribing his way out of prison for molesting a young boy, and a forged letter in Paul's name being developed around then too which says:

Never accept any accusation against a presbyter except on the evidence of two or three witnesses.

  • 1 Timothy 5:19

It's been around 2,000 years of being the place to go if you like young boys, and their access to the confessional made it easy to both identify victims and recruit peers.

Rotten to the core.

[–] quicksand@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I would imagine those two or three witnesses are of the accused's choosing as well

[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago

Now now, we have to respect the Clergyman's way of life. /s

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

religion should be ridiculed every time it makes an appearance in public. in 2023, having a religion is an embarrassment.

[–] rengoku2@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tell that to Muslims and their far left protectors.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago
[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are good reasons why the Spanish anarchists treated Catholic clergymen the way they did during the Spanish Civil War.

I'm not saying it was the correct way to deal with it... what I am saying is that knowledge of the Catholic Church's "activities" has never really been that much of a secret.

[–] Zippit@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How did they treat them? Never heard of this and am a history lover.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know wikipedia is not considered the best source, but it does serve as a decent intro to some subjects.

[–] Zippit@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] sndmn@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The men in dresses that children should avoid are clergy.

[–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] bloopernova@programming.dev 12 points 1 year ago

Wow, he must have been really well organized to get to 200,000.

I'm sorry, I had to make the feeble attempt at humour. Don't hate me too much.

[–] DasherPack@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The numbers are relatively similar to France's, taking the difference of population into account, which makes a lot of sense. What's definitely not the same is the reaction of the clergy. While the French bishops have "asked for forgiveness", the Spanish ones have said it's all lies and defamation.

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That few? Damn I thought with 500-odd years of a unified Spain they'd have easily blown past a million.

[–] quicksand@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is just the past 83 years. But still 6.5 per day shows an impressive amount of restraint. Including laypeople, it's still only around 13. That's barely even in the double digits!

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Truly, the best religion has to offer.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They only talked with living adults

[–] Hobbes@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago

¡Dios mio!

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's surprising to me that Quatar's Aljazeera reports on spanish problems.

[–] GoosLife@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is surprising to you that one of the largest international news organizations in the middle east also covers news from spain? Why?

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My comment was incorrect and didn't translate my thought, as you pointed out.

I don't know why OP sourced it, rather than some european newspaper. AJ is the largest international news organization in the Middle East, and I'd refer to it when learning about the situation there, because I know they have plenty of people on the ground. Euronews, CNN, Reuters, Guardian, whoever - would likely refer to them when asked to cover something there too.

But to AJ Spain is a generic 'world' category. One that they have limited resources to cover. There, they themselves are in a situation where they are to refer to someone, and by quality and effort it's secondary to local coverage. That's my point one.

Point two is that we read about pedophiles in spanish clergy on 99% muslim news portal. I bet, it's morbidly entertaining to their readers to hear that these christians take another L. It's like my state's newspapers waiting the death of dollar, or american podcasters discussing the fall of chinese economy. It supports their worldview. It isn't content written with us in mind. So, even if it's non-biased, why would we refer to a news org that is so distant from this place, from this subject, from us?

Point minus-one tho is that AJ is now caught in Palestine-Israeli conflict. Their journalists were killed in Gaza, they talk against Israel, they are to be banned there (?). I feel like downvotes came from here. Because people felt I have my grudge with AJ in relation to current news. No. AJ is biased, but they are paired with an obv biased israeli reporting, they are two parts of one picture.